RIF results are in
#21
Guess I better step it up.
#22
#24
#26
Hey, loud and clear right now,
I didn't want this to be a junior vs senior thread. Sure, I would love to see retirements for any reason.
At anytime UPS could have come forward and ponied up a bit for retirements or the slight shortfall in the MOU. They didn't. Period. Lets move on.
This company shelved the MOU, which I gave 30% to, and countless others gave much more. At this point, I'll let my EB do the talking. UPS shoved first, our EB is shoving back, so be it.
I'll back senior/junior IPAers equally. I'm blaming this one on UPS.
I didn't want this to be a junior vs senior thread. Sure, I would love to see retirements for any reason.
At anytime UPS could have come forward and ponied up a bit for retirements or the slight shortfall in the MOU. They didn't. Period. Lets move on.
This company shelved the MOU, which I gave 30% to, and countless others gave much more. At this point, I'll let my EB do the talking. UPS shoved first, our EB is shoving back, so be it.
I'll back senior/junior IPAers equally. I'm blaming this one on UPS.
#27
They have NOT offered voluntary furloughs or LOAs to mitigate the number of furloughs, and they most likely won't ...
#28
You are right. We haven't seen any evidence on one for one job savings for retirements/quitting/ or LOA's.
Question- If a guy takes a mil LOA, can he come back any time he wants if his orders change? If so, I can see them not giving us credit for that as a job save.
Question- If a guy takes a mil LOA, can he come back any time he wants if his orders change? If so, I can see them not giving us credit for that as a job save.
#29
UPS did give full credit to Mil leaves under MOU1 and MOU2, and the same caveat applied (they could come back early, but the IPA still got full credit)
#30
Yea, I was wondering about now though. I guess that there are no rules any more, back to them doing what they wanted. Under the MOU they gave us credit for a lot of stuff that we didn't really earn. For example, full credit for RDG when they used the pilots in some domiciles/seatsand didn't use the full amount of RDG. The company actually figured that in the end, they got 85% value for each dollar that we pledged. Not our fault, theirs entirely, but that was what it came out to and explains a little bit of their reluctance to go forward with MOU3....that and the fact that they are a bunch of butt heads trying to pick a fight <G>
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