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USMCFDX 09-18-2010 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Underdog (Post 872779)


Want it fast?...No LOA...incorporate it in the TA.

That is not what the MEC Vice Chairman thinks.

Perm11FO 09-18-2010 07:41 PM

HKG considerations
 
For those whose entire career has been centered in the US, Europe and/or South America without more than a few "annual" trips to Asia, be forewarned. When you are in Asia, you ain't in Kansas any more, Dorothy.
Asia is a horse of a different color. It's difficult (if not impossible) to bring your personal value sets, wants and desires to Asia and have them met in their entirety. The Asian culture is what it is and has been for a long, long time. They have their "ways" and you'll have two choices when you get there: 1) accept and adapt; 2) suffer.
You will not get the Germantown (Destin Beach; San Diego; you fill in the blank here) palatial house that you have now unless you are independently wealthy and willing to part with a lot of that wealth monthly.
Also, you will probably have to change your vision of personal transportation away from the owned car/SUV/pickup what have you to one of a hired driver or public transportation.
Again, go into this HKG bid with eyes open, not just the wallet open. As stated in previous posts, the FOA may or may not cover your expenses. The money for the upgrade may look great on paper, but not if you have to use the added bump in pay for psychiatric treatments because your expectations were not fulfilled!

MrSuupafly 09-18-2010 11:17 PM

You don't need to hire a driver in HKG. You can drive your own car.

onetime 09-19-2010 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by Underdog (Post 872779)
Let's just not make the same mistake in opening up MD-11 in HKG, 757 in CGN, or A330 in MIA.


Want it fast?...No LOA...incorporate it in the TA.

A330 in MIA? Do you know something that we don't?

Paddles 09-19-2010 01:50 PM

How hard is it to jumpseat on our own FDX planes intra-asia. Say from Hong Kong to KL or Singapore?

Thx

USMCFDX 09-19-2010 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Paddles (Post 872952)
How hard is it to jumpseat on our own FDX planes intra-asia. Say from Hong Kong to KL or Singapore?

Thx

Easy.

I used to jumpseat out of Subic and avoid the scheduled DH Manila bag drag. I know one Subic guy lived in Singapore and another lived in Hong Kong.

I doubt that it has changed, but could be wrong.

HireAstarPilots 09-19-2010 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Perm11FO (Post 872784)
For those whose entire career has been centered in the US, Europe and/or South America without more than a few "annual" trips to Asia, be forewarned. When you are in Asia, you ain't in Kansas any more, Dorothy.
Asia is a horse of a different color. It's difficult (if not impossible) to bring your personal value sets, wants and desires to Asia and have them met in their entirety. The Asian culture is what it is and has been for a long, long time. They have their "ways" and you'll have two choices when you get there: 1) accept and adapt; 2) suffer.
You will not get the Germantown (Destin Beach; San Diego; you fill in the blank here) palatial house that you have now unless you are independently wealthy and willing to part with a lot of that wealth monthly.
Also, you will probably have to change your vision of personal transportation away from the owned car/SUV/pickup what have you to one of a hired driver or public transportation.
Again, go into this HKG bid with eyes open, not just the wallet open. As stated in previous posts, the FOA may or may not cover your expenses. The money for the upgrade may look great on paper, but not if you have to use the added bump in pay for psychiatric treatments because your expectations were not fulfilled!

That is a good quote, though it occurs to me that several people have been SENT to Hong Kong, and we already know their thoughts.

TheBaron 09-19-2010 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by HireAstarPilots (Post 873035)
That is a good quote, though it occurs to me that several people have been SENT to Hong Kong, and we already know their thoughts.

Coerced, pressured, bullied and threatened...but none were SENT.

DLax85 09-19-2010 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFDX (Post 872783)
That is not what the MEC Vice Chairman thinks.

...and that's unfortunate.

Why don't they survey the membership on this issue??

TheBaron 09-19-2010 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by DLax85 (Post 873073)
...and that's unfortunate.

Why don't they survey the membership on this issue??

Good idea. You need to know where you're starting so you can go in the exact opposite direction.

;)


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