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METO Guido 04-05-2015 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by akfrtdwg 57 (Post 1830360)
There's more. 80 is 20 days on 10 off. Commute on your days off. They will tell you right before your shift starts where to meet the aircraft. That location is to be considered your "Domicile" for the shift. No per diem paid while you are there. So to put it simply. You have a floating domicile and you are responsible to space-a yourself to wherever the company wants you tobe.

Duffle stuff hot or cold, last minute space-a to knob routed, trifocal RW hunt w charted missed no MCP? For the record, you boys rock.

Raptor 04-05-2015 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 1856292)
Duffle stuff hot or cold, last minute space-a to knob routed, trifocal RW hunt w charted missed no MCP? For the record, you boys rock.

I'm feeling old or English is no longer my primary language!

Raptor 04-05-2015 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by akfrtdwg 57 (Post 1830360)
There's more. 80 is 20 days on 10 off. Commute on your days off. They will tell you right before your shift starts where to meet the aircraft. That location is to be considered your "Domicile" for the shift. No per diem paid while you are there. So to put it simply. You have a floating domicile and you are responsible to space-a yourself to wherever the company wants you tobe.

The company should pay to get you to a "floating domicile". If they expect you to get there by jumpseating as official policy, the the company is violating the Jumpseat agreements they have negotiated. Jumpseating is reserved for personal use by the pilot's choice. While the pilot can certainly use it to go to work by HIS/HER choice, the company can not direct it on other carriers.

Do they expect you to "space A" on company aircraft only? The company could build that into your schedule, but that would be work days under 1 in 7 calculations.

From the little information here, seems like the company may be running afoul of 1-7 and FAA duty requirements, IRS and state taxing authority, and OAL Jumpseat agreements.

What kind of outfit is this?

Sideshow Bob 04-05-2015 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Raptor (Post 1856354)
The company should pay to get you to a "floating domicile". If they expect you to get there by jumpseating as official policy, the the company is violating the Jumpseat agreements they have negotiated. Jumpseating is reserved for personal use by the pilot's choice. While the pilot can certainly use it to go to work by HIS/HER choice, the company can not direct it on other carriers.

Do they expect you to "space A" on company aircraft only? The company could build that into your schedule, but that would be work days under 1 in 7 calculations.

From the little information here, seems like the company may be running afoul of 1-7 and FAA duty requirements, IRS and state taxing authority, and OAL Jumpseat agreements.

What kind of outfit is this?

Kalitta used to play that game in the early '90s with their domestic operation. They also used to tell pilots sitting reserve that hadn't had any duty in six days that their 1/7 had happened already since they weren't assigned, and that they hoped they enjoyed it.

Until the FAA put a stop to it. Maybe somebody needs to make an anonymous call to a FSDO.

Total dirt bag outfit.

whitekeys 04-05-2015 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob (Post 1856358)
Kalitta used to play that game in the early '90s with their domestic operation. They also used to tell pilots sitting reserve that hadn't had any duty in six days that their 1/7 had happened already since they weren't assigned, and that they hoped they enjoyed it.

Until the FAA put a stop to it. Maybe somebody needs to make an anonymous call to a FSDO.

Total dirt bag outfit.


Kalitta or FedEx?

HappyCrew 04-05-2015 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by whitekeys (Post 1856389)
Kalitta or FedEx?

Everts Air Cargo...

METO Guido 04-06-2015 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by Raptor (Post 1856347)
I'm feeling old or English is no longer my primary language!

Ha! I'd haul the mail in a Shorts if I had to. List myself for a jump seat to get there? Fuhhhhh

Packrat 04-06-2015 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Raptor (Post 1856254)
Each state could legally tax you.

Wrong.

You are taxed based on your home of record with one exception. California can take income taxes based on the amount of flying you do within the state. At my airline, I was LAX based but never paid a penny of CA income tax because I did NO intraCA flying.

Raptor 04-06-2015 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1856712)
Wrong.

You are taxed based on your home of record with one exception. California can take income taxes based on the amount of flying you do within the state. At my airline, I was LAX based but never paid a penny of CA income tax because I did NO intraCA flying.

I was trying to make the point that if they have a floating domicile, then they have to be essentially changing your work location. While your home of record may not change, your tax domicile can change with what they are doing. This has implications on what is deductible and what isn't.

Ask a MLB player if they pay taxes in every state they play in--they do, regardless of their home of record.

acebaxter 04-06-2015 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Raptor (Post 1856816)
I was trying to make the point that if they have a floating domicile, then they havreceived. [49 U.S.C.S. §14503(b)(2) to be essentially changing your work location. While your home of record may not change, your tax domicile can change with what they are doing. This has implications on what is deductible and what isn't.

Ask a MLB player if they pay taxes in every state they play in--they do, regardless of their home of record.

They are not baseball players they are airline pilots. You might want to look at the relevant tax code.


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