By boat? I did not see this coming
09-15-2010, 12:55 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by dckozak
You know if this was say a, Small Package Forum in stead of a Pilot Forum you, sir, would be king of the boards. 
But alas, this forum is for pilots over pilot issues and not too concerned with issues related to marine transport, rail transport or road, other than how it affects AIR TRANSPORT.
Your interests appear to lie solely with UPS, Which is fine. But don't assume anyone reading here gives much of a rats @ss to these other issues, even if UPS makes lots of money using them.
To the UPS pilots reading this guys dribble, I hope this isn't typical of what you have to live with at Brown. But based of what I've read from you all, I assume it is. Thankfully at Purple, our company types keep a lower profile (online).
But alas, this forum is for pilots over pilot issues and not too concerned with issues related to marine transport, rail transport or road, other than how it affects AIR TRANSPORT. Your interests appear to lie solely with UPS, Which is fine. But don't assume anyone reading here gives much of a rats @ss to these other issues, even if UPS makes lots of money using them.
To the UPS pilots reading this guys dribble, I hope this isn't typical of what you have to live with at Brown. But based of what I've read from you all, I assume it is. Thankfully at Purple, our company types keep a lower profile (online).
I'm not here for attention and really could care less if you read it.
I already know I'm not on the bandwagon here.
Last edited by Soyathink; 09-15-2010 at 01:22 PM.
09-15-2010, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Soyathink
I'm sorry I hit a nerve with you. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I didn't start this thread. I was just staying on topic.
I'm not here for attention and really could care less if you read it.
I already know I'm not on the bandwagon here.
I'm not here for attention and really could care less if you read it.
I already know I'm not on the bandwagon here.
09-15-2010, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Soyathink
I'm sorry I hit a nerve with you. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I didn't start this thread. I was just staying on topic.
I'm not here for attention and really could care less if you read it.
I already know I'm not on the bandwagon here.
I'm not here for attention and really could care less if you read it.
I already know I'm not on the bandwagon here.
09-15-2010, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitefrater
"When it Absolutely, Positively, needs to be there next month. Or the month after that. Maybe."
"Synchronizing the World of Business... with the lunar cycle"
"Yes ma'am. Your package should be here on any one of the next four tides."
"Synchronizing the World of Business... with the lunar cycle"
"Yes ma'am. Your package should be here on any one of the next four tides."
But, I think you FedEx types are getting jealous over our awesome, new slogan - We "heart" logistics! 
Take that FedEx!
09-15-2010, 02:19 PM
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Wow all the attention.
I'm on here because I like dulling your axe when you grind it.
Can you stay on topic???
I'm on here because I like dulling your axe when you grind it.
Can you stay on topic???
09-15-2010, 02:25 PM
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Mod Note:
Well, I'm on here to remind all of you boys and girls (again for the nth time) to stay on topic and avoid inflammatory posts. Maybe I'll just do a slash and burn, and keep doing it until it sinks in for everyone, eh?
The next ones who can't follow simple rules will have their posts deleted and get an infraction or two.
Addition: I'm going to go get a snack. Be back in a little bit. Please do not do anything that might give me a heartburn.
Well, I'm on here to remind all of you boys and girls (again for the nth time) to stay on topic and avoid inflammatory posts. Maybe I'll just do a slash and burn, and keep doing it until it sinks in for everyone, eh?
The next ones who can't follow simple rules will have their posts deleted and get an infraction or two.
Addition: I'm going to go get a snack. Be back in a little bit. Please do not do anything that might give me a heartburn.
Last edited by vagabond; 09-15-2010 at 02:34 PM. Reason: added new thought
09-15-2010, 03:50 PM
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There are many corps that are involved with ocean frieghters including FedEx.this is not anything new and what they're using these frieghters for is to move bulk frieght not small packages. UPS always avoided moving frieght with airplanes.
09-15-2010, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by brownie
There are many corps that are involved with ocean frieghters including FedEx.this is not anything new and what they're using these frieghters for is to move bulk frieght not small packages. UPS always avoided moving frieght with airplanes.
What is new is UPS is now able to move it 20% faster than the competition on water, faster than before. Have specific day delivery unlike the competition or what UPS did before. Just like with the express trains domestically that some air travels by or the sleeper teams used. Boats, trains and truck are all lower per tonne to operate than aircraft.
If UPS always avoided moving freight with airplanes then why do the new build 744 have nose doors? UPS is known not to put options in airplanes that they never intend to use right?
If UPS avoids moving freight on airplanes like you say, could you explain how UPS Airlines is ranked 3rd on the planet in scheduled freight Tonnes carried Internationally at 1,362,000 tonnes. UPS Airlines is ranked second in the world domestically at 2,761,000 tonnes. UPS Airlines is ranked second total on the planet in freight tonnes carried at 4,123,000 tonnes carried only behind FDX. UPS Airlines is ranked second on the planet in freight tonne kilometers.
So why post that UPS avoids moving freight by airplane? UPS will use a more profitable option when available like boats, trains or trucks but not avoid it. That makes smart business sense.
Last edited by Soyathink; 09-15-2010 at 04:53 PM.
09-15-2010, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Soyathink
If UPS always avoided moving freight with airplanes then why do the new build 744 have nose doors? UPS is known not to put options in airplanes that they never intend to use right?
UPS will use a more profitable option when available like boats, trains or trucks but not avoid it. That makes smart business sense.
UPS will use a more profitable option when available like boats, trains or trucks but not avoid it. That makes smart business sense.
UPS does not put comfort and/or technology options on airplanes unless absolutely necessary to meet the MINIMUM regulation.
If you haven't figured it out by lurking around here yet, they don't put any SAFETY options besides the absolute minimum either. I'll leave it at that ...
Finally, UPS will use a cheaper option ... no problem. Just smart business.
09-15-2010, 05:39 PM
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Will Fred Still Be Laughing?
Ahead of the Tape: Air-Freight Demand to Offer Window Into FedEx - WSJ.com
That bodes well for FedEx, because air freight is its most profitable business. And it gives the company decent momentum heading into the September-to-November quarter, the most critical time of year for shippers. Little wonder that FedEx's shares have rallied 9% this month.
Yet there are risks for air-freight demand. Its strength this summer was partly boosted by a shortage of ocean-shipping containers as companies rushed to restock inventories. That created backlogs and pushed up rates, prompting some companies to ship by air instead, notes Dahlman Rose analyst Jason Seidl. They are likely to trade down from pricey air shipping as ocean rates normalize.
For example, after coughing up for air freight early this year, "we're obviously back in stock and air freighting very little, if any, right now," Lululemon Athletica Inc. Chief Financial Officer John Currie said last week. Meanwhile, rival UPS on Wednesday said it is launching a new, faster ocean-freight service.
So investors should watch for any cracks in FedEx's air-freight demand. Thankfully, for the global economy, it isn't so much whether goods are travelling by land, sea or air, just that they are traveling.
That bodes well for FedEx, because air freight is its most profitable business. And it gives the company decent momentum heading into the September-to-November quarter, the most critical time of year for shippers. Little wonder that FedEx's shares have rallied 9% this month.
Yet there are risks for air-freight demand. Its strength this summer was partly boosted by a shortage of ocean-shipping containers as companies rushed to restock inventories. That created backlogs and pushed up rates, prompting some companies to ship by air instead, notes Dahlman Rose analyst Jason Seidl. They are likely to trade down from pricey air shipping as ocean rates normalize.
For example, after coughing up for air freight early this year, "we're obviously back in stock and air freighting very little, if any, right now," Lululemon Athletica Inc. Chief Financial Officer John Currie said last week. Meanwhile, rival UPS on Wednesday said it is launching a new, faster ocean-freight service.
So investors should watch for any cracks in FedEx's air-freight demand. Thankfully, for the global economy, it isn't so much whether goods are travelling by land, sea or air, just that they are traveling.
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