bleedairpacks

Congrats to all the guys getting the opportunity to interview with such a great company. I spent the last 30+ years of my life flying for them and never regretted anything (4a2b included). However, I can't see all the open seats available being filled for 727SO. Didn't some grandpas revert back to 727SO when they phased out the DC-10? Do we really have that many still flying?

Happy New Year!

bifff15

Splat,
Your rating will cover you even if not current. The need for a "current" FE written is to allow you to get the rating when employed without the need to take the test.
Biff

Palmtree Pilot

At World, flying a FedEx trip subbed to us.

PtP

shamu

Got it, thanks for the info.

bleedairpacks

Those HNL turns were a pain, huh?

splat

Thanks Biff

MaydayMark

Bifff ... not technically correct, see FAR highlighted in red below:

Sec. 63.31 Eligibility requirements; general.

To be eligible for a flight engineer certificate, a person must--

(a) Be at least 21 years of age;
(b) Be able to read, speak, and understand the English language, or have an appropriate limitation placed on his flight engineer certificate;
(c) Hold at least a second-class medical certificate issued under Part 67 of this chapter within the 12 months before the date he applies, or other evidence of medical qualification accepted for the issue of a flight engineer certificate under Sec. 63.42; and
(d) Comply with the requirements of this subpart that apply to the rating he seeks.

Sec. 63.33 Aircraft ratings.

(a) The aircraft class ratings to be placed on flight engineer certificates are--

(1) Reciprocating engine powered;
(2) Turbo propeller powered; and
(3) Turbojet powered. (b) To be eligible for an additional aircraft class rating after his flight engineer certificate with a class rating is issued to him, an applicant must pass the written test that is appropriate to the class of airplane for which an additional rating is sought, and-- (1) Pass the flight test for that class of aircraft; or (2) Satisfactorily complete an approved flight engineer training program that is appropriate to the additional class rating sought.

Sec. 63.35 Knowledge requirements.

(a) An applicant for a flight engineer certificate must pass a written test on the following:

(1) The regulations of this chapter that apply to the duties of a flight engineer.
(2) The theory of flight and aerodynamics.
(3) Basic meteorology with respect to engine operations.
(4) Center of gravity computations.
(b) An applicant for the original or additional issue of a flight engineer class rating must pass a written test for that airplane class on the following:
(1) Preflight.
(2) Airplane equipment.
(3) Airplane systems.
(4) Airplane loading.
(5) Airplane procedures and engine operations with respect to limitations.
(6) Normal operating procedures.
(7) Emergency procedures.
(8) Mathematical computation of engine operations and fuel consumption.

(c) Before taking the written tests prescribed in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section, an applicant for a flight engineer certificate must present satisfactory evidence of having completed one of the experience requirements of Sec. 63.37. However, he may take the written tests before acquiring the flight training required by Sec. 63.37.

(d) An applicant for a flight engineer certificate or rating must have passed the written tests required by paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section since the beginning of the 24th calendar month before the month in which the flight is taken. However, this limitation does not apply to an applicant for a flight engineer certificate or rating if--

(1) The applicant--
(i) Within the period ending 24 calendar months after the month in which the applicant passed the written test, is employed as a flight crewmember or mechanic by a U.S. air carrier or commercial operator operating either under Part 121 or as a commuter air carrier under Part 135 (as defined in Part 298 of this title) and is employed by such a certificate holder at the time of the flight test;
(ii) If employed as a flight crewmember, has completed initial training, and, if appropriate, transition or upgrade training; and
(iii) Meets the recurrent training requirements of the applicable part or, for mechanics, meets the recency of experience requirements of Part 65; or
(2) Within the period ending 24 calendar months after the month in which the applicant passed the written test, the applicant participated in a flight engineer or maintenance training program of a U.S. scheduled military air transportation service and is currently participating in that program.

Daniel Larusso

He already has the certificate Mayday, he is not an 'applicant' for anything other than the job here.

golfandfly

Mark,

This guy already has a FE certificate, not just the written test. Once you have the rating, there is no need to ever take the written again....

SONORA PASS

Correct. Just like the ATP.

Now the DMV is a different story.

SP