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01-04-2011, 02:43 PM
#125
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Position: MD-11 Captain
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Originally Posted by Rock177
Can I ask about the LAX domicile? How much seniority does the junior guy have there and what seat is it? Can you give an example of a typical month of flying?
Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the info!
Presently LAX is only an MD-11 domicile ...
01-04-2011, 03:35 PM
#126
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Position: 1 on big twin
Posts: 324
Originally Posted by Rock177
Can I ask about the LAX domicile? How much seniority does the junior guy have there and what seat is it? Can you give an example of a typical month of flying?
Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the info!
And the most Junior F/O is about 600-700 from the bottom of the list of roughly 4500 total.. So I would think it will take a few years (3-5) for a new hire to be able to hold that seat... . Like many other people have said.. concentrate on getting on the list and go from there.
The MD-11 guys from LA could tell you more about the flying.. I'm not senior enough to comment on the schedule first hand.
... And honestly, the flying 3-5 years from now could change... so it's not that important what those guys are doing now.. I have heard to never make the system form (Type of airplanes on certain route/cities) be the primary factor in your decision.. because the company can change that as their needs dictate... It sounds trite now but bid the airplane you want to fly in the domicile you want to live near/commute to.. and take the rest as it comes. I hope this helps.
Last edited by Jumbo Pilot; 01-04-2011 at 03:40 PM. Reason: Additional Clarification
01-04-2011, 04:04 PM
#128
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Originally Posted by Rock177
Can I ask about the LAX domicile? How much seniority does the junior guy have there and what seat is it? Can you give an example of a typical month of flying?
Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the info!
I've been here over 4 years and I'm not really all that close to being able to bid -11s in LA. Admittedly, it's been a rough 4 years in terms of movement but you'll be so far away from holding LA that, as a previous poster stated, the flying may have changed dramatically by the time you can.
I'd say the junior guy there has about 6-7 years on property, but that's just a guess.
01-04-2011, 05:42 PM
#129
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Position: 767 Trunk Monkey
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Originally Posted by American Made
Any pointers for someone with good qualifications but no internal contacts??? Thanks in advance.
01-04-2011, 07:48 PM
#130
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
Bifff ... not technically correct, see FAR highlighted in red below: 
Sec. 63.31 Eligibility requirements; general.
To be eligible for a flight engineer certificate, a person must--
(a) Be at least 21 years of age;
(b) Be able to read, speak, and understand the English language, or have an appropriate limitation placed on his flight engineer certificate;
(c) Hold at least a second-class medical certificate issued under Part 67 of this chapter within the 12 months before the date he applies, or other evidence of medical qualification accepted for the issue of a flight engineer certificate under Sec. 63.42; and
(d) Comply with the requirements of this subpart that apply to the rating he seeks.
Sec. 63.33 Aircraft ratings.
(a) The aircraft class ratings to be placed on flight engineer certificates are--
(1) Reciprocating engine powered;
(2) Turbo propeller powered; and
(3) Turbojet powered. (b) To be eligible for an additional aircraft class rating after his flight engineer certificate with a class rating is issued to him, an applicant must pass the written test that is appropriate to the class of airplane for which an additional rating is sought, and-- (1) Pass the flight test for that class of aircraft; or (2) Satisfactorily complete an approved flight engineer training program that is appropriate to the additional class rating sought.
Sec. 63.35 Knowledge requirements.
(a) An applicant for a flight engineer certificate must pass a written test on the following:
(1) The regulations of this chapter that apply to the duties of a flight engineer.
(2) The theory of flight and aerodynamics.
(3) Basic meteorology with respect to engine operations.
(4) Center of gravity computations.
(b) An applicant for the original or additional issue of a flight engineer class rating must pass a written test for that airplane class on the following:
(1) Preflight.
(2) Airplane equipment.
(3) Airplane systems.
(4) Airplane loading.
(5) Airplane procedures and engine operations with respect to limitations.
(6) Normal operating procedures.
(7) Emergency procedures.
(8) Mathematical computation of engine operations and fuel consumption.
(c) Before taking the written tests prescribed in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section, an applicant for a flight engineer certificate must present satisfactory evidence of having completed one of the experience requirements of Sec. 63.37. However, he may take the written tests before acquiring the flight training required by Sec. 63.37.
(d) An applicant for a flight engineer certificate or rating must have passed the written tests required by paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section since the beginning of the 24th calendar month before the month in which the flight is taken. However, this limitation does not apply to an applicant for a flight engineer certificate or rating if--
(1) The applicant--
(i) Within the period ending 24 calendar months after the month in which the applicant passed the written test, is employed as a flight crewmember or mechanic by a U.S. air carrier or commercial operator operating either under Part 121 or as a commuter air carrier under Part 135 (as defined in Part 298 of this title) and is employed by such a certificate holder at the time of the flight test;
(ii) If employed as a flight crewmember, has completed initial training, and, if appropriate, transition or upgrade training; and
(iii) Meets the recurrent training requirements of the applicable part or, for mechanics, meets the recency of experience requirements of Part 65; or
(2) Within the period ending 24 calendar months after the month in which the applicant passed the written test, the applicant participated in a flight engineer or maintenance training program of a U.S. scheduled military air transportation service and is currently participating in that program.
Sec. 63.31 Eligibility requirements; general.
To be eligible for a flight engineer certificate, a person must--
(a) Be at least 21 years of age;
(b) Be able to read, speak, and understand the English language, or have an appropriate limitation placed on his flight engineer certificate;
(c) Hold at least a second-class medical certificate issued under Part 67 of this chapter within the 12 months before the date he applies, or other evidence of medical qualification accepted for the issue of a flight engineer certificate under Sec. 63.42; and
(d) Comply with the requirements of this subpart that apply to the rating he seeks.
Sec. 63.33 Aircraft ratings.
(a) The aircraft class ratings to be placed on flight engineer certificates are--
(1) Reciprocating engine powered;
(2) Turbo propeller powered; and
(3) Turbojet powered. (b) To be eligible for an additional aircraft class rating after his flight engineer certificate with a class rating is issued to him, an applicant must pass the written test that is appropriate to the class of airplane for which an additional rating is sought, and-- (1) Pass the flight test for that class of aircraft; or (2) Satisfactorily complete an approved flight engineer training program that is appropriate to the additional class rating sought.
Sec. 63.35 Knowledge requirements.
(a) An applicant for a flight engineer certificate must pass a written test on the following:
(1) The regulations of this chapter that apply to the duties of a flight engineer.
(2) The theory of flight and aerodynamics.
(3) Basic meteorology with respect to engine operations.
(4) Center of gravity computations.
(b) An applicant for the original or additional issue of a flight engineer class rating must pass a written test for that airplane class on the following:
(1) Preflight.
(2) Airplane equipment.
(3) Airplane systems.
(4) Airplane loading.
(5) Airplane procedures and engine operations with respect to limitations.
(6) Normal operating procedures.
(7) Emergency procedures.
(8) Mathematical computation of engine operations and fuel consumption.
(c) Before taking the written tests prescribed in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section, an applicant for a flight engineer certificate must present satisfactory evidence of having completed one of the experience requirements of Sec. 63.37. However, he may take the written tests before acquiring the flight training required by Sec. 63.37.
(d) An applicant for a flight engineer certificate or rating must have passed the written tests required by paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section since the beginning of the 24th calendar month before the month in which the flight is taken. However, this limitation does not apply to an applicant for a flight engineer certificate or rating if--
(1) The applicant--
(i) Within the period ending 24 calendar months after the month in which the applicant passed the written test, is employed as a flight crewmember or mechanic by a U.S. air carrier or commercial operator operating either under Part 121 or as a commuter air carrier under Part 135 (as defined in Part 298 of this title) and is employed by such a certificate holder at the time of the flight test;
(ii) If employed as a flight crewmember, has completed initial training, and, if appropriate, transition or upgrade training; and
(iii) Meets the recurrent training requirements of the applicable part or, for mechanics, meets the recency of experience requirements of Part 65; or
(2) Within the period ending 24 calendar months after the month in which the applicant passed the written test, the applicant participated in a flight engineer or maintenance training program of a U.S. scheduled military air transportation service and is currently participating in that program.
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