The TA and the Flex
09-15-2006 | 09:06 AM
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Many of those guys (not all, but many) have long forgotten what being away from home is like (other than the FLL PM out/back).
Look at many of those Senior Flex's in the MD11. They have been in the School house or mgt jobs for the last 20 plus years....................and teaching us how to fly in China or SFS when they have never been there.
A a few even Brag about that fact.
MY prediction is that Very few FLEX guys will quit.....except The Senior 727 Flex guys. Watch the next bid. See if they don't Bid the Bus or MD and magically become a expert flex intructor on them after 2 short months of having to fly the line.
Look at many of those Senior Flex's in the MD11. They have been in the School house or mgt jobs for the last 20 plus years....................and teaching us how to fly in China or SFS when they have never been there.
A a few even Brag about that fact.
MY prediction is that Very few FLEX guys will quit.....except The Senior 727 Flex guys. Watch the next bid. See if they don't Bid the Bus or MD and magically become a expert flex intructor on them after 2 short months of having to fly the line.
When I went through training, most of the instructors were great and very professional. There were a few that needed to go.
Most these guys realized the great Deal they had and weren't looking a gift horse in the mouth. The problem with any "Good Deal" that is limited to a "select few"..............is it soon becomes a sense of Entitlement.
When you get most of these guys by themselves, say over a beer, they will tell you what a fantastic deal is was. True they often had to work Max days a month. There is a Big Difference working MAX days evey month sleeping in your own bed every night and working a regular line being away from home 6 months out of the year, missing Birthdays, Holidays, little league games and Anniviersays. I would sure like the option to get my next month's schedule with DRFT days already added on and sleep with the wife every night!!
09-15-2006 | 09:24 AM
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Many of those guys (not all, but many) have long forgotten what being away from home is like (other than the FLL PM out/back).
Look at many of those Senior Flex's in the MD11. They have been in the School house or mgt jobs for the last 20 plus years....................and teaching us how to fly in China or SFS when they have never been there.
A a few even Brag about that fact.
MY prediction is that Very few FLEX guys will quit.....except The Senior 727 Flex guys. Watch the next bid. See if they don't Bid the Bus or MD and magically become a expert flex intructor on them after 2 short months of having to fly the line.
Look at many of those Senior Flex's in the MD11. They have been in the School house or mgt jobs for the last 20 plus years....................and teaching us how to fly in China or SFS when they have never been there.
A a few even Brag about that fact.
MY prediction is that Very few FLEX guys will quit.....except The Senior 727 Flex guys. Watch the next bid. See if they don't Bid the Bus or MD and magically become a expert flex intructor on them after 2 short months of having to fly the line.
I know one guy that has been on the -11 from day one, 15+ years. Total MD11 time 1200:00, 800:00 Capt 400:00 F/O, not sure if he has ever been required to carry a passport.
Another guy bumped me from a trip for his fly days, both day flights, the first being NWA!
Last edited by FoxHunter; 09-15-2006 at 09:38 AM.
09-15-2006 | 10:52 AM
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I just want to clairfy the Above.
When I went through training, most of the instructors were great and very professional. There were a few that needed to go.
Most these guys realized the great Deal they had and weren't looking a gift horse in the mouth. The problem with any "Good Deal" that is limited to a "select few"..............is it soon becomes a sense of Entitlement.
When you get most of these guys by themselves, say over a beer, they will tell you what a fantastic deal is was. True they often had to work Max days a month. There is a Big Difference working MAX days evey month sleeping in your own bed every night and working a regular line being away from home 6 months out of the year, missing Birthdays, Holidays, little league games and Anniviersays. I would sure like the option to get my next month's schedule with DRFT days already added on and sleep with the wife every night!!
When I went through training, most of the instructors were great and very professional. There were a few that needed to go.
Most these guys realized the great Deal they had and weren't looking a gift horse in the mouth. The problem with any "Good Deal" that is limited to a "select few"..............is it soon becomes a sense of Entitlement.
When you get most of these guys by themselves, say over a beer, they will tell you what a fantastic deal is was. True they often had to work Max days a month. There is a Big Difference working MAX days evey month sleeping in your own bed every night and working a regular line being away from home 6 months out of the year, missing Birthdays, Holidays, little league games and Anniviersays. I would sure like the option to get my next month's schedule with DRFT days already added on and sleep with the wife every night!!
Gotta think about this one..........
09-15-2006 | 11:09 AM
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For some of those guys .......returning to the line is impossible, because you can't return to a place you have nere been to!
09-15-2006 | 11:13 AM
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09-15-2006 | 11:28 AM
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