FedEx deviation question
#12
I find it sadly amusing that those of us, not more than a few months ago, who were harping loudly on this forum and at work to NOT vote FOR the TA because there are real issues that we have yet to resolve, were being vigorously criticized over our lack of strategic foresight. Now as the ink is almost fully dry, someone is complaining about Deviation Policies and Accepted Fares. This is rich.
I'm amused that you thought the company was going to roll over quick on things like accepted fares and scheduling rules for an FDA. Nifty little plan but it wouldn't have survived contact with the enemy.
#13
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Back to the question at hand. If your d/h is MEM-ATL-CDG for example and you want to cnx the MEM-ATL leg and keep the ATL-CDG leg you can and the GT will be waiting for you in CDG when you arrive. The catch is two fold, when you deviate only deviate on the MEM-ATL leg (first error most crew members make is they deviate on both legs) now FOX will cancel both legs(who knows why) so now you need to call Corp Travel and rebook ATL-CDG on the exact same flight that is on the pairing. Your GT in CDG is tied to the second leg. You can confirm this by looking at the Summary Format of your pairing and it will show exactly what legs you are deviating on. Same holds true for coming back to the states if you have a two leg CDG-AMS-MEM. Keep the CDG-AMS, deviate on AMS-MEM, rebook pairing CDG-AMS leg and the GT will stay. I have been doing this ever since we went to FOX and it works everytime.
#14
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I was wondering why there was an option to deviate the individual trips and I think you explained it, FamilyATM. Thanks. I assume you get the full fare in your deviation bank and the fare for the original (un-deviated) flight comes out of your bank since you had to rebook it with corporate travel. Sounds like a good way to keep your GT and your destination. I also wonder if CRS would still be on the hook for that one leg since it shows that you did not deviate on the summary for that leg. ??
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So which plan is more effective Popeye's plan or your (run away, run away) plan?
#16
I think we should hit these sections hard in 12 months.
I know this is open to debate but I believed certain individuals when they said the company was not going to seriously negotiate scheduling rules until then.
Sometimes the best course is to break off the engagement and reengage under better circumstances.
In short, I don't view the passed TA as a failure to achieve what I (we) want in scheduling rules. I view it as a partial victory in the areas improved. I was willing to be patient for the rest. But I will be steadfast in my determination to eventually achieve those goals.
I know this is open to debate but I believed certain individuals when they said the company was not going to seriously negotiate scheduling rules until then.
Sometimes the best course is to break off the engagement and reengage under better circumstances.
In short, I don't view the passed TA as a failure to achieve what I (we) want in scheduling rules. I view it as a partial victory in the areas improved. I was willing to be patient for the rest. But I will be steadfast in my determination to eventually achieve those goals.
Last edited by Gunter; 05-07-2011 at 09:44 AM.
#17
At this point G. Advertising that we'll "get it on the next TA", is all anyone can hope for.
The next indicator of how effective our run and hide strategy this last time will be from the minutes of the upcoming 3 Day negotiation meeting. That should be soon, I think.
How was that? Not too many big words this time.
The next indicator of how effective our run and hide strategy this last time will be from the minutes of the upcoming 3 Day negotiation meeting. That should be soon, I think.
How was that? Not too many big words this time.
#18
...and I too agree that the company wasn't about to negotiate scheduling rules changes until NPRM process was complete; but that does NOT mean we didn't miss an opportunity to tweak other areas in the contract.
All water under the bridge now ---- standing by hoping for the best!
#19
I think we should hit these sections hard in 12 months.
I know this is open to debate but I believed certain individuals when they said the company was not going to seriously negotiate scheduling rules until then.
Sometimes the best course is to break off the engagement and reengage under better circumstances.
In short, I don't view the passed TA as a failure to achieve what I (we) want in scheduling rules. I view it as a partial victory in the areas improved. I was willing to be patient for the rest. But I will be steadfast in my determination to eventually achieve those goals.
I know this is open to debate but I believed certain individuals when they said the company was not going to seriously negotiate scheduling rules until then.
Sometimes the best course is to break off the engagement and reengage under better circumstances.
In short, I don't view the passed TA as a failure to achieve what I (we) want in scheduling rules. I view it as a partial victory in the areas improved. I was willing to be patient for the rest. But I will be steadfast in my determination to eventually achieve those goals.
Right! We will really show them, next time. Yeah, next time, no way we will cave. Right.
More battered wife syndrome than unity here boss.
#20
Another Deviant question:
Have a DH to LHR and have to get to Stansted. Any pointers? I have plenty of Bank $ so I may just take the CO that already provides the transportation.... But for the next time that I don't the advice will come in handy.
Have a DH to LHR and have to get to Stansted. Any pointers? I have plenty of Bank $ so I may just take the CO that already provides the transportation.... But for the next time that I don't the advice will come in handy.
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