Hey I said not all, I'm in the Captain's group too. But I know of several dual seat qualified Captians that went to work when Skeds told them "if you don't do this the flight will not go". I also flew with guys who said they had to to get their high five. If you were here for the last contract, like you I was in the right seat and "I" feel junior guys looking to leave FedEx put a ton of pressure on FedEx to improve the deal for us.
It's just my opinion and I've been wrong before.

 

Truer words were never spoken!

 

Touched a bit of a nerve though it sounds like.

 

[QUOTE=130JDrvr;64944]I'm tired of you guys bad mouthing the captains in general. I was an F/O when we got the last contract and was ready to get fired in ANC when we walked. Also, held the line as a S/O when we were ALPA the first time. /QUOTE]

Look we have a TA (it will more than likely pass). It is what it is!

The LACK of "Individual Resolve" wasn't only in the Left seat. There is plenty of Blame to go around. Maybe there was less in one group than the other, who really knows unless you have access to "secure" Data.

For all of you who did the right thing, you can look yourself in the mirror and be proud. You can't put a price on dignity.

All you younger ones (or more appropriately Junior ones), please learn from this.

Next time it will be your turn in the left seat. Lead by example.

It's done lets move on.

 

It's funny, I know two guys who sold back their vacation this year and they're screaming loudest about why we should vote for this TA.............

 

They should know........obviously they weren't personally willing to do what it would have taken, i,e, The weren't willing to fight for anything better.
What's the saying: " A man has to know his own limitations"

 

This thread is growing stale. If you haven't read the TA by now, shame on you, its out there to be seen. If you feel it could have been better, get on line with the rest of the whiners and sign up for the next negotiating committee
If you haven't voted, DO SO.
Assuming it is ratified, do your part to live up to its terms and make sure the company does the same.
Get on with life, kiss the dog, pat the wife!

 

Poll running about 93% Yes.

 

"Next time it will be your turn in the left seat. Lead by example.

It's done lets move on."

Yes, and no. If the TA passes and we leave Status Quo we will need to have some sort of after action report and see what we did good as well as bad. Part of the bad is "educating" those independent contractors that flew draft and OT this last spring and summer about unity and resolve. That may include getting into a few mugs when the time is right so they know there is no free ride for bad behavior. I know of quite a few I will be speaking with using all the candor I can without getting fired. Also, anyone who speaks with a non member now out of the context of training or in the cockpit needs to be educated as well. The time for treating these pickpockets and thieves like peers is long past, especially when they cash their bonus checks and don't pay dues! IMHO anyway.

 

I can't figure out why this hasn't been going on for years. I avoid AOC as much as possible. I was, unfortunately, there a couple of days ago when one of our more infamous non-members walked in. It was absolutely amazing to watch people rush over to him, slap him on the back, shake his hand and tell him how good it was to see him. Everything short of dropping down to their knees.