View Poll Results: FedEx Pilots: How did you vote on the new TA?
I voted YES
159
85.03%
I voted NO
11
5.88%
I will not vote
2
1.07%
I can't vote (non-member)
15
8.02%
Voters: 187. You may not vote on this poll
FedEx TA Voting Poll
10-03-2006, 09:37 PM
#102
...Whatever It Is!
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,680
Originally Posted by Coffee *****
So now educate me, actually answer some questions and make me feel good about the TA.
Second, have YOU made the effort to educate yourself by thoroughly reading the TA and making the effort to go to a Roadshow or hub turn meeting - where you can go straight to the horses mouth (the NC) and you will get those quantifiable answers you desire? Have you called you block rep with your questions, or called the ALPA offices? Or is the extent of your educating yourself an anonymous (almost
) msg board on the internet? 
BTW - I make and pour my own coffee.
10-03-2006, 10:52 PM
#103
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Posts: 94
Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
First off, welcome to FedEx.
Second, have YOU made the effort to educate yourself by thoroughly reading the TA and making the effort to go to a Roadshow or hub turn meeting - where you can go straight to the horses mouth (the NC) and you will get those quantifiable answers you desire? Have you called you block rep with your questions, or called the ALPA offices? Or is the extent of your educating yourself an anonymous (almost) msg board on the internet?
BTW - I make and pour my own coffee.
Second, have YOU made the effort to educate yourself by thoroughly reading the TA and making the effort to go to a Roadshow or hub turn meeting - where you can go straight to the horses mouth (the NC) and you will get those quantifiable answers you desire? Have you called you block rep with your questions, or called the ALPA offices? Or is the extent of your educating yourself an anonymous (almost
) msg board on the internet? BTW - I make and pour my own coffee.
10-04-2006, 03:41 AM
#104
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 12
Jugs
First of all, thanks to the MEC and NC. Second, I said "jugs", heh heh.
I was sold on it when I saw I didn't have to carry the coffee anymore. I pulled a hammy trying to get to the phone to vote. Alas, I did not make the cut on the roster and cannot vote.
I was sold on it when I saw I didn't have to carry the coffee anymore. I pulled a hammy trying to get to the phone to vote. Alas, I did not make the cut on the roster and cannot vote.
10-04-2006, 04:01 AM
#105
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,820
CB,
I could argue with you but you said you've gone to a road show and still aren't satisfied. One question, if you are junior and in the back of the 72, how did you vote? Guys I fly with that have been here over a year are pretty senior in the back. Sorry you are so unhappy with life.
I could argue with you but you said you've gone to a road show and still aren't satisfied. One question, if you are junior and in the back of the 72, how did you vote? Guys I fly with that have been here over a year are pretty senior in the back. Sorry you are so unhappy with life.
10-04-2006, 04:51 AM
#106
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: B777 Captain
Posts: 566
He was probably one of those UAL guys hired in the late 90s that actually thought he would have a chance at widebody captain there before he retired, but never bothered crunching the numbers on it!
10-04-2006, 05:20 AM
#107
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: A300/310 Capt
Posts: 1,642
CB,
I tend to agree with alot of your points. The thing that I don't understand is that what we were asking for from the company has been posted on the union web site for quite some time, but you haven't bothered to ***** about it until now. Where have you been for the past year? The TA represents basically, what we have asked for for the last year. The only real difference being that the company was able to put alot of it off for a year after signing. I just cannot understand someone who wants to sit back for 2.5 years doing nothing, and then start *****ing when they got what they asked for.
I tend to agree with alot of your points. The thing that I don't understand is that what we were asking for from the company has been posted on the union web site for quite some time, but you haven't bothered to ***** about it until now. Where have you been for the past year? The TA represents basically, what we have asked for for the last year. The only real difference being that the company was able to put alot of it off for a year after signing. I just cannot understand someone who wants to sit back for 2.5 years doing nothing, and then start *****ing when they got what they asked for.
10-04-2006, 05:21 AM
#108
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: DC-10 S/O, forever.
Posts: 116
CB seems to be trying to make up for his perceived "lost wages" at UAL in one contract here at FDX. Lots of folks get here in their late 40's and live with it (me included). If we could do it all over again we'd either be lottery winners and have our own jennies to putz around in on weekends or be hired here at 23.
10-04-2006, 05:44 AM
#109
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,820
Originally Posted by Coffee *****
I cannot remember a year with a 2.77% inflation rate, but please correct me.
1998 - 1.6%
1999 - 2.2%
2000 - 3.4%
2001 - 2.8%
2002 - 1.6%
2003 - 2.3%
2004 - 2.7%
2005 - 3.4%
Only 3 years since that UAL contract you refer to have we had greater that 2.7% inflation. By your own math, we did better than a inflationary pay raise. The numbers are from the Fed Res Bank. You can look them up yourself if you'd like.
Last edited by pinseeker; 10-04-2006 at 06:10 AM.
10-04-2006, 06:08 AM
#110
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,820
CB,
If you use 8 4 week months at 72hrs and 4 5 week months at 90hrs you get 936hrs. A 3rd year NB FO makes $100/hr. Using 7% (our OCT05 tabled position) times 2yr 5 months you get $15834. How are we only getting 55% of what we should in retro pay? You ask other to give proof. Prove your math. By the way, 7% over 2yr 5 month is 2.9%/yr. We also have 3 yr WB FO's and 5 yr NB Captains.
If you use 8 4 week months at 72hrs and 4 5 week months at 90hrs you get 936hrs. A 3rd year NB FO makes $100/hr. Using 7% (our OCT05 tabled position) times 2yr 5 months you get $15834. How are we only getting 55% of what we should in retro pay? You ask other to give proof. Prove your math. By the way, 7% over 2yr 5 month is 2.9%/yr. We also have 3 yr WB FO's and 5 yr NB Captains.
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