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Old 02-15-2012 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DLax85
Exactly what in the "actual" new rules would drive this change in your schedules?

(There was a lot of talk "before" the "actual" new rules came out, which suggested commuting could become more limited/difficult, but I don't believe any of those limitations (i.e. max # of consecutive night hub turns) made it into the final verbiage)

Do your sources in "manpower planning" work for the IPA or management??
Manpower planning is a UPS function. I believe you would be limited to 3 nights or EDW trips in a row. No more Tues. Morning to Sat. morning trips per the new rules. Like I said before, I would like the IPA to put out some sample trips that reflect the new rules. They are doing a great job telling me how we are still overstaffed and how many more vacation weeks will be avail., now let me see how the lines will look if we are included in the new rest rules. That's all!
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Old 02-15-2012 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by UPSFO4LIFE
Manpower planning is a UPS function. I believe you would be limited to 3 nights or EDW trips in a row. No more Tues. Morning to Sat. morning trips per the new rules. Like I said before, I would like the IPA to put out some sample trips that reflect the new rules. They are doing a great job telling me how we are still overstaffed and how many more vacation weeks will be avail., now let me see how the lines will look if we are included in the new rest rules. That's all!
I'm unfamiliar with your "EDW" trips, but if you are talking only 3 "hub turns" in a row, I believe that restriction was originally in the "proposed" rules, but did NOT make the final version.

Other's in the know please chime in....and I will look to double-check the new rules.

I do agree; however, that your IPA should answer these type of simple scheduling question immediately.
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Old 02-15-2012 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DLax85
I'm unfamiliar with your "EDW" trips, but if you are talking only 3 "hub turns" in a row, I believe that restriction was originally in the "proposed" rules, but did NOT make the final version.

Other's in the know please chime in....and I will look to double-check the new rules.

I do agree; however, that your IPA should answer these type of simple scheduling question immediately.
The "rule" is in there - sorta.

If you can get a minimum of 2 hours rest between hub turns you are not restricted to only 3 in a row.
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Old 02-16-2012 | 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxKts
The "rule" is in there - sorta.

If you can get a minimum of 2 hours rest between hub turns you are not restricted to only 3 in a row.

Hey UPSFO4LIFE,

If you fly domestic sort trips, do many of our trips NOT have at least 2 hours on the ground during the sort ?

Not being a wise guy, just an unfamiliar international type who really doesn't know ...
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Old 02-16-2012 | 04:09 AM
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2 hours on the ground does not equal 2 hours rest though.
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Old 02-16-2012 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
2 hours on the ground does not equal 2 hours rest though.

Understood, but how is it written in the regs, that's the question ?
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Old 02-16-2012 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
2 hours on the ground does not equal 2 hours rest though.
Originally Posted by CactusCrew
Understood, but how is it written in the regs, that's the question ?
Whats the difference?

"So let it be written...So let it be done.."
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Old 02-16-2012 | 09:13 AM
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That is a pretty good representation on how the white house sees Federal Regulators.

Think there was a burning bush in the oval office when they got their marching orders?
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Old 02-16-2012 | 09:38 AM
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Burning bush? They all have good medical insurance with prescription plans that cover that problem. So, I would have to guess, no.


(I couldn't decide which way to go on this...GW or this. But, I didn't want to make it political)
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Old 02-16-2012 | 12:56 PM
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Please, for the love of God, don't make this thread political, or the powers-what-be will close it down fo' sho'. And no religion too.

JJ
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