YesterdayQuote:
Your statement that the EXCO should "oversee" the fix is a passive statement. The EXCO should know what the proper solution is and demand it. Why would they want to back peddle from this? You are wrong when you say that the EXCO should NOT be creating the solution. The EXCO absolutely should be creating the solution!
You mention that you hope the solution is satisfactory from your perspective. What is a satisfactory solution from your perspective? I have stated three possible solutions listed below. do you agree or disagree with the solutions I have proposed?
1. Fire the replacement workers and recall pilots according to the CBA.
2. Furlough the new hires. Pay all the furloughed pilots for the same amount of days that the replacement workers were paid. Also start the 7 year recall rights clock over for each furloughed pilot to the same date that the replacement workers are furloughed.
3. Keep their replacement workers but provide pay protection for every furloughed pilot who has a hire date earlier than 03/14/2012
I am hesitant to post whatever I think are the choices of solutions to the ABX management created problem with 2 new-hires. For one, I declare that without the benefit of discussion(s) that have occurred between Exco/ABX it’s difficult to understand all the potentials. As mentioned before, the company created the problem and it is theirs to deal with (first). Otherwise our union would always be attempted to cleanup their screwups (we do that enough) and set a very bad method of doing business between labor and management. Originally Posted by SheriffWydell
I doubt that hiring new hires was a MISTAKE. I don't believe they accidentally interviewed, ran backgrounds checks, fingerprinted, made employment offers, scheduled class dates and printed ID cards. Your statement that the EXCO should "oversee" the fix is a passive statement. The EXCO should know what the proper solution is and demand it. Why would they want to back peddle from this? You are wrong when you say that the EXCO should NOT be creating the solution. The EXCO absolutely should be creating the solution!
You mention that you hope the solution is satisfactory from your perspective. What is a satisfactory solution from your perspective? I have stated three possible solutions listed below. do you agree or disagree with the solutions I have proposed?
1. Fire the replacement workers and recall pilots according to the CBA.
2. Furlough the new hires. Pay all the furloughed pilots for the same amount of days that the replacement workers were paid. Also start the 7 year recall rights clock over for each furloughed pilot to the same date that the replacement workers are furloughed.
3. Keep their replacement workers but provide pay protection for every furloughed pilot who has a hire date earlier than 03/14/2012
While I like some of your solutions, I think they will not be the answers you (and I) are looking for. Of course it will be entertaining being proven wrong and have the interest of all parties meet fairly; just not sure how it can be done.
My opinion? ABX will not ‘fire’ these guys without excessive exposure to an unacceptable liability. Perhaps completing their training (for CBA purposes to return after furlough) and then furloughing them per CBA is a doable solution….although it wouldn’t come with any pay or resetting for anyone else. Just gives the affected guys something for the future. Keeping them online and pay protection for others…..unrealistic and not going to happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are brought into flight standards/management to perform training and no line flying.
As mentioned, we should find out this week. But I don’t hold my breath for the solution(s) that fits all satisfactorily.
