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Old 03-22-2012, 07:05 PM
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ABX is bringing on new hires while dozens of pilots are still out on furlough. Some of the real pilots have been with the company for more than 12 years and furloughed for the last 3 years.
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Don't know the exact numbers but many have bypassed recall, I know several flying abroad
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Those are not included. On March 14th, the second set of new hires started while at least 2 dozen furloughed pilots were available for recall.
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Those are not included. On March 14th, the second set of new hires started while at least 2 dozen furloughed pilots were available for recall.
Being an Unemployed MD-11F Pilot...Someone told me about ABX Inc. Hiring about a month ago....I didn't apply and had no interest in ABX...

With that said...How could ABX Hire New Hires if Furloughs are still on the street?......Are they union or not?.....Are these "New Hires" now considered Scabs?

Is there going to be backlash on them?
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..Are these "New Hires" now considered Scabs?
Sure sounds like it
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Originally Posted by alphonso1 View Post
Being an Unemployed MD-11F Pilot...Someone told me about ABX Inc. Hiring about a month ago....I didn't apply and had no interest in ABX...

With that said...How could ABX Hire New Hires if Furloughs are still on the street?......Are they union or not?.....Are these "New Hires" now considered Scabs?

Is there going to be backlash on them?
No, they're not scabs, not at all. A scab crosses a picket line when there is a strike. Let's not diminish the meaning of scab.

That said, this is truly bad juju. If ABX pilots are unionized and this is against the contract, it needs to be grieved (and probably is). If it's not a contract violation, then there is no leg to stand on. Don't blame the new-hires, blame management and/or a weak contract (if one even exists).
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No, they're not scabs, not at all. A scab crosses a picket line when there is a strike. Let's not diminish the meaning of scab.

That said, this is truly bad juju. If ABX pilots are unionized and this is against the contract, it needs to be grieved (and probably is). If it's not a contract violation, then there is no leg to stand on. Don't blame the new-hires, blame management and/or a weak contract (if one even exists).
+1...... people like to use the SCAB label a lot...mostly when it is not warranted. Be ****ed at the company if you want.....not the new hires.
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UPS has been doing this since the furlough started...

Hiring straight into the left seat no less, even a few who were union members at the time.
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Those new hires are not scabs but they took those jobs knowing they were taking work away from furloughed pilots who had been out of work for 3 years. As far as I'm concerned that means they are low life scum and always will be.
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Originally Posted by SheriffWydell View Post
Those new hires are not scabs but they took those jobs knowing they were taking work away from furloughed pilots who had been out of work for 3 years. As far as I'm concerned that means they are low life scum and always will be.
What does the IBT local say about this?
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