Originally Posted by 4A2B

I have personally never seen the company do anything but bend over backwards to help pilots in need.

Originally Posted by Gunter

That is until they work hard at losing incriminating e-mails and coaching ACPs to forget what they said to you.

Originally Posted by Gunter

That is until they work hard at losing incriminating e-mails and coaching ACPs to forget what they said to you.

Originally Posted by 4A2B

they did something like this to a pilot in need of help? Please share, that is something that surprises me I have to say.

Originally Posted by 4A2B

I do not think it is that tough to figure out, I commute, so just ask yourself this: If I am not on a trip, on vacation, visiting friends/relatives, or insert any other thing you want to...the question is where do I go during that other generic time off? If it is not to your "primary" home, the large majority of the time, then you better think twice about saying your primary home is in the FDA. It is apparent that there is not a certain number of days you have to be there, if you are wealthy and want to travel the world on every day off it sounds just fine to do that but if your travel on routine days off is back and forth to your real house somewhere else, then you are a commuter.

At the end of the day most of us have been in this business for many years, I certainly know which location is my crash pad and which is my primary residence. If your FDA house is a crash pad to you, then you are not owed the money. You have to be honest with yourself, if you do that knowing that the real issue is they are paying you to live in the FDA then I think you will be just fine like most everyone else living in the FDA's now.

Originally Posted by dogbone

...So now one would have to ask why Fedex has two completely different sets of rules for married and single pilots.

Originally Posted by dogbone

You forgot to add.....if you are married. If you happen to be single none of what you said applies. So now one would have to ask why Fedex has two completely different sets of rules for married and single pilots.

Originally Posted by 4A2B

...not sure that reading the 3 decisions makes it so clear that a single person has a different standard than a married one. In fact it reads to me that the main thing they considered was "where you spent your off time"...In the end if I was a single or married pilot I would not take the money if the FDA house was a "crash pad" to me and frankly it is only fair to be treated the same way.

Originally Posted by CloudSailor

Well said. It really wasn't about married vs. single as many assumed. It really was all about where one calls home.

For the record -- I think all FDA pilots should get the Housing Allowance, regardless of primary residence location, center of gravity, crashpad situation, or whatever. But, that is not what is in the CBA at this time.

My understanding is that we are negotiating for the HA to be provided to ALL pilots, regardless of where home is. Hopefully that's the case.

Originally Posted by CloudSailor

For the record -- I think all FDA pilots should get the Housing Allowance, regardless of primary residence location, center of gravity, crashpad situation, or whatever. But, that is not what is in the CBA at this time.