Sorry, Huck, it was a bad deal and some of us knew it the whole time. I've heard the reasoning of pushing for POS FDA LOA 1. One theory floated was to prevent furlough as the economic slowdown, DC10 retirement and age change occurred.

That purpose was blown out of the water by the company canceling bids, filling vacancies with an excess bid, redoing the canceled bid followed by the big excess we were trying to avoid.

I think some of us were fooled by some really nefarious people. People who stood to gain at giving up HKG and CDG on the cheap. But, as FDX LAG points out, many just didn't give a hoot. I put the figure there at 30-50%.

My goal is to reduce the number of don't give a hoots and fooled so we can negate the plans of the nefarious.

 

From the Walrus: "It can only happen if we vote for it".

Like the age 65 vote?

 

Put Prater and DW together and what do you get? Age 65...with retro.

We should fear have the wrong folks in positions of power.

 

Excellent background lesson.

Proves that having the wrong guys in power at a critical moment can have disastrous consequences.

I think the best way to avoid pain is to just say No to PBS.

 

I was bidding 50% @ the "U" with PBS. There is not enough time left on earth for me to even begin to scratch the surface of how bad the system can be to all but the most senior pilots.

 

You haven't a read ANY of the posts I've made except the one you quoted, have you? The ones where I said I'm against PBS, as well vote NO. Because even the best PBS system out there is a concession.

Because if/when this crap comes your way, the MEC is doing the TA roadshows, you can do one of 2 things;

1) Act like the girl the "The Wedding Crashers". Where she's stomping her feet, fingers in her ears, holding her breath and turning blue because daddy isn't giving her her little way. OR...

2) Educate yourself on the PBS. And when you go to the roadshow or talk to a MEC/NC rep, you get to play "stump the chump" and ask him the tough questions they don't want to answer. Such as "hey the pay rate looks good, but why did you guys agree to a system that uses unstacking/globalization/high credit windows/no vacation low/withholds LCA checkairman lines from FO's? You guys agreed to a serious concession" etc etc etc etc. And watch him/her squirm and think about the colossal mistake they made, all the while "holding their feet to the fire". And in the process, hopefully educating some of you peers as well that may be hung up on the higher pay rate offered, etc. The choice is yours man........

Or just read below.

Yep, it's a concession, plain and simple. And those of us that have had to give workrules in the past even with our minority "NO" vote know the lesson. Once you give them up, you NEVER get them back. Again, it's all about educating yourself on the crap sandwich somebody is trying to feed you.

As far as having the right guys in power. All that does is determine the suck level.

 

Slightly different situation. Congress does not vote on our contract. We do.

 

Check out new #1 SO on 727. Not coming back to backseat after 37 years at FedEx to fly the line. He is here to help implement Preferential Bidding wearing a MGMT hat and needed to hold a line position to do so. Just ask him.

 

How is he planning on doing that? I'm pretty sure that he will be getting a pretty chilly reception from the pilot group! There is absolutely nothing he can say that would convince me the preferential bidding is the way to go.

 

New slogan: "I got mine but you WON'T get yours."

Guess I'll have to go buy a hat now.