Suggestions 4 dealing w/insecure Capt
08-18-2012, 05:46 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by You Are
Notice that the majority of comments are from First Officers. Captains are professional enough to not talk negatively about people they fly with. You can't really say that about the First Officers hired over the years. Even the abbreviations and structure of the title of this thread leads one to believe that we aren't dealing with a very professional group of aviators!
But most FO's are not like that. Really.
We've just been watching this thread without any comment at all.
08-18-2012, 06:05 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by You Are
Notice that the majority of comments are from First Officers. Captains are professional enough to not talk negatively about people they fly with. You can't really say that about the First Officers hired over the years. Even the abbreviations and structure of the title of this thread leads one to believe that we aren't dealing with a very professional group of aviators!
08-18-2012, 06:37 PM
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At a previous co., a friend of mine calmly asked the capt to take VHF 1. He then got an ARINC patch to the CP's office and lt them know that they needed to start work on getting a replacement FO to his destination. After terminating the phone patch, he simply told the Capt., I have #1. Beautiful.
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08-18-2012, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by You Are
Notice that the majority of comments are from First Officers. Captains are professional enough to not talk negatively about people they fly with. You can't really say that about the First Officers hired over the years. Even the abbreviations and structure of the title of this thread leads one to believe that we aren't dealing with a very professional group of aviators!
You ever stop and think that not one "FO" got here without a ton of Captain time? Your post leads me to believe you have no FAR 121 Captain time. We all occasionally fly with a wanker, and like it or not we have to figure out a way to deal with them without compromising safety. As a Captain it is easy to deal with someone, as an FO it takes far more finesse.
Keep the voice recorder on the phone handy and ready to record, just the act of hitting record will probably shut him up, if not (and he is a non-union guy) get removed from the trip and play it for the Fleet Captain and DO. They pay us to do a job and the roles are very well defined to prevent just this kind of unsafe crap from happening. But what do I know, I'm just an FO.......
08-18-2012, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by You Are
Notice that the majority of comments are from First Officers. Captains are professional enough to not talk negatively about people they fly with. You can't really say that about the First Officers hired over the years. Even the abbreviations and structure of the title of this thread leads one to believe that we aren't dealing with a very professional group of aviators!
And you were hired to the left seat evidentially.
08-18-2012, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by You Are
Notice that the majority of comments are from First Officers. Captains are professional enough to not talk negatively about people they fly with. You can't really say that about the First Officers hired over the years. Even the abbreviations and structure of the title of this thread leads one to believe that we aren't dealing with a very professional group of aviators!
Last edited by Busboy; 08-18-2012 at 07:24 PM.
08-18-2012, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
I know that, like all of our First Officers, I was not a professional until I was chosen to become a Captain. Now, like all of our extraordinary Captains, I am a consummate professional. I really love flying with and learning from me.
... and now you get to fly with your favorite Captain EVERY flight!
08-18-2012, 07:18 PM
#39
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Just say "You're into a freaky power trip which I'm havin a hard time diggin" (borrowed from a Doonsebury strip from the early 70's)
The whole exchange:
Rufus: Hey you! With the weird helmet! Where'd you come from?
Zonker: How do, cap'n america! My names Zonker...coach says im playing uptight end for you. Ol zonker's got the most crazy far out hands in the country. They're just HEEWACK too far out!
Rufus: Ok weirdo, stand forward. Lets see how you handle the ball.
Zonker: Negative, captain america sire! You're into a freaky power trip which I'm havin a hard time diggin'
Rufus: ...what'd he just say?
Lineman: "no."
The whole exchange:
Rufus: Hey you! With the weird helmet! Where'd you come from?
Zonker: How do, cap'n america! My names Zonker...coach says im playing uptight end for you. Ol zonker's got the most crazy far out hands in the country. They're just HEEWACK too far out!
Rufus: Ok weirdo, stand forward. Lets see how you handle the ball.
Zonker: Negative, captain america sire! You're into a freaky power trip which I'm havin a hard time diggin'
Rufus: ...what'd he just say?
Lineman: "no."
08-18-2012, 07:33 PM
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Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 (ECPA), 18 U.S.C. § 2510-22. Title I of the ECPA, which is often referred to as the Wiretap Act, prohibits the intentional actual or attempted interception, use, disclosure, or "procure[ment] [of] any other person to intercept or endeavor to intercept any wire, oral, or electronic communication." Title I also prohibits the use of illegally obtained communications as evidence. 18 U.S.C. § 2515.
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