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ATIPilot 02-27-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 727CA (Post 1360982)
Yes and no. The four CCI pilots were all senior 727 captains. They were not ever furloughed with all of the other 727 pilots. That is because they were the last four pilots who had been awarded 757 slots. Of course the company wanted to furlough them with everyone else but the MEC talked mgmt into putting them through training.

I don't see those 4 guys flying left seat at ATI with ATI guys senior to them on ISL flying FO.

I see a flu epidemic coming.

wallyp34 02-27-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ATIPilot (Post 1361547)
I don't see those 4 guys flying left seat at ATI with ATI guys senior to them on ISL flying FO.

I see a flu epidemic coming.

You seem like a smart guy so here is a little advice. Before you speak out on a public forum, do a little research before you make yourself look foolish. Your welcome.;)

Larry in TN 02-27-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ATIPilot (Post 1361547)
I don't see those 4 guys flying left seat at ATI with ATI guys senior to them on ISL flying FO.

I don't know where those four CCI guys fall on the ISL. Their positions were CVG 757 vacancies which, per Bloch's award, go to pre-merge CCI pilots (which they are).

Assuming that they are properly dual-qualified, nothing in Bloch's award restricts them from being assigned to 767 or 757-Combi trips. Nothing in the JCBA prevents them from being assigned to 767 or 757 Combi trips. If they are properly dual-qualified then the JCBA LOA#2 opens up two B757 CVG lines (4 pilots = 2 crews = 2 lines) for bid by pre-merge ATI pilots.

The mechanics of how this "cross-bidding" will be accomplished have not been specified. I imagine that it will be a mess.

What Bloch's award does is restrict how the filling of vacancies and displacements will be handled. If a vacancy is published for pre-merge ATI aircraft, or replacements for pre-merge ATI aircraft, then it will be filled from the per-merge ATI seniority list and vis versa.

e.g. Vacancies are created by the addition of the B757-Combi. Those are filled by pre-merge ATI pilots because those four 757-Combis are replacements for the ATI DC8-Combis.

Vacancies are created by the addition of the fourth B757 freighter to CVG. Those vacancies are filled by pre-merge CCI pilots.

capitalairtrans 02-27-2013 07:20 PM

ATIpilot,

You know the Internet isn't as anonymous as you might think it is. When you talk about certain airplanes being in ILN on certain days and use buzz words like "cash cow", you really make it easy to find out who you really are. I would say that is "B.S.", but just how it is.

While you're at it google "job action", that way you don't turn into the lawsuit do jour.

nitefr8dog 03-04-2013 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NCR757dxr (Post 1360082)
Sorry for the bump......

I was messing around with stuff this afternoon and noticed that 219CY, 315AA, and 742AX are showing reference to ATI now too. I then started thinking all three frames going from ABX to ATI does make sense.

- 219CY: All white with small ABX sticker; replaced by 364CM
- 315AA: All white with small ABX sticker, use to be at ATI, and would join 312AA
- 742AX: Sits between 741AX and 743AX which are both at Amerijet and it also has IS&S panels. So maybe an even switch for 791AX?

Just figured I'd post these observations to see some reactions. That would be a net of two aircraft (1 767-300 and 1 767-200) which also is inline with the continued rumors of two new airplanes at ATI and a net of -1 at ABX (could be a net of 0 if 796AX also goes back to ABX).

Thoughts?

Not sure where you get this stuff but....219CY is a DHL lease so unless ATI has some DHL flying outside of US domestic it is not going anywhere. 315AA was originally an ATI aircraft which ABX traded a 200 for 315AA which was a 200ER. So unless ATI is going to trade an airframe back I do not see it happening...could happen though as ABX has quite a few ER aircraft now.

NCR757dxr 03-04-2013 03:22 PM

Nite,

219CY = DHL Middle East + 364CM has been converted to a BDSF now
315AA = ABX's only ETOPS -200 and it was traded for what became 762CX or 763CX @ ATI..... so I guess it would depend on who needs a -200 ETOPS bird more

My "stuff" isn't just pulled out of mid air :)

nitefr8dog 03-04-2013 05:47 PM

"stuff" was your description not mine....like I said if 315AA goes back ABX gets a 200 non ER from ATI/CAM in trade... its a wash as ABX is not using any 200ERs anyway.

NCR757dxr 03-04-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 1365084)
"stuff" was your description not mine....like I said if 315AA goes back ABX gets a 200 non ER from ATI/CAM in trade... its a wash as ABX is not using any 200ERs anyway.

I guess 315AA for 791AX could work. Though 315AA did some type of charter requiring ETOPS about a month ago plus the UPS peak work in December to HNL.

In the end it is all speculation....

FlyAstarJets 03-04-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NCR757dxr (Post 1364992)
Nite,

My "stuff" isn't just pulled out of mid air :)

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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 1365084)
"stuff" was your description not mine....

At least he's not talking about your "junk" Dxr :rolleyes::rolleyes:

NCR757dxr 03-05-2013 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyAstarJets (Post 1365104)
At least he's not talking about your "junk" Dxr :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Haha yeah :D


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