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08-25-2013, 07:19 PM

#21

MD11Fr8Dog

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Originally Posted by Huck

That's all those wing spars need.

More weight on them.

They should put the aft on the fuselage, like the DC9/MD80 family.

08-25-2013, 07:44 PM

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L'il J.Seinfeld

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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp

For the record, Dee Howard wanted to do the same thing for a 727 and get rid of the FE. The Feds said do whatever you want. However they pointed out the type certificate data sheet for a 727 said it had three engines and required an FE. Missing either of these it would not be a 727 and would have to certified as a totally new type of aircraft, not just a mod. You ever see any 2 engine FE-less 727s flying?

No, but I saw a 727 with winglets the other day.

08-25-2013, 08:04 PM

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The guy at the Noodle Shop in Narita told me we were just gonna shut down number 2 once we got to cruise and restart it on descent, to avoid the whole messy recertification thingy . . .

08-25-2013, 09:08 PM

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I have operated 2 of the Air Canada "No FE" DC-8's as an FE. They put a lot of the switches overhead of the FO, however the fuel panel was still in the back. It was never certified in the US.

08-25-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MEMbrain

Newest rumor I heard the other night in the AOC. Apparently Fred and the BOD doesn't like the price tag of the 777 with Asia slowing, so they are thinking of removing the #2 engine on the MD-11 and refitting #1 and #3 with GE90s. Sort of a poor man's 777. Maybe they could do the same with the MD-10? Thoughts?

Piece of cake. They will bolt right up and aircraft systems will fall into place.

08-25-2013, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FDXLAG

Heard the exact same rumor about the 72 and yet we retired them; and that was a good airplane.

It was a great airplane. Boeing and the FAA killed it with unbelievable aging aircraft inspections.

08-25-2013, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pengu

Read something about a turboprop 727 conversion
that was tried. Don't know if it's real or 'internet real'

It was flown in test with a "ductless" fan jet engine in place of engine #3...

http://www.air-and-space.com/1986110...20rear%20l.jpg

and MD-80-series was also tested with one also, by GE I think....

Not conversion, just engine developement test/demonstrators

And changing engine types is a STC-thing..... Changing number of engines is ground up re-certification.....it'll NEVER happen.

08-26-2013, 04:39 AM

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I just heard they are putting a MAGLEV in place across both the Atlantic and Pacific.

08-26-2013, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JetA Heartburn

I just heard they are putting a MAGLEV in place across both the Atlantic and Pacific.

This is true according to the Electrolux salesman that just stopped by my crash pad.
He said the only problem with it so far is that it is powered by unmanned dirigibles that 3D print the helium that they use.