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06-01-2014, 12:40 AM

#291

Banana

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13,000TT, 8500 PIC Jet turbine, Aged 43, Typed B777, B767, A320, B737, BA, All Intl boxes marked off. Application Active……
Don't know what they are looking for but with folk getting called already I wonder if Internal Recs help at this stage…..

06-01-2014, 03:56 AM

#292

FDXLAG

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Originally Posted by L188Flyer

So based on what you said... stay at Southwest or give UPS a shot?

Where will you be more senior in 2 years, 5 years, or when you retire? That is where I would be. With the caveat that being senior flying freight is more important for QOL then flying PAX.

06-01-2014, 04:24 AM

#293

CloudSailor

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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld

...I turned down SWA to come to Brown.

I would also do the same if offered both jobs at the same time. But, to leave SWA after 2 years there, a bit of a different decision altogether.

06-01-2014, 04:50 AM

#294

L188Flyer

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Originally Posted by CloudSailor

I would also do the same if offered both jobs at the same time. But, to leave SWA after 2 years there, a bit of a different decision altogether.

I am right out of the gate, so it is moot at this point. I like the idea of international flying and QOL... Reading some of what I have on here some make it sound like Brown likes to ride you hard and put you away wet... Trips vs days off; on days off training etc... All the while commuting...

It looks like from the numbers that there will be good movement with Brown over the next 10 years if the hiring matches retirements...

06-01-2014, 05:25 AM

#295

Livinthedreem

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Does anyone know where the training is and if it's paid?

06-01-2014, 05:43 AM

#296

navigatro

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Quote:

Originally Posted by L188Flyer

So based on what you said... stay at Southwest or give UPS a shot?

LAst person who left SW for UPS was furloughed for about 4 years. Movement at UPS will not be any better than SW over the next 8 years or so.

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Originally Posted by Livinthedreem

Does anyone know where the training is and if it's paid?

Training/hotel are paid. First year pay is about 40K. Training will likely be in SDF or ANC but could be contracted somewhere else.

06-01-2014, 06:34 AM

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UPSFO4LIFE

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Originally Posted by CRJammin

I don't know if anybody noticed, but in UPS's NTSB filings, it noted that the AVG captain makes $290,000, and the AVG F/O makes $190,000 at UPS. For those UPSers who said I was wrong that I could make $200,000 in Year 5, I think you're wrong. I just talked to a bottom feeder F/O who made $210,000 flying international in '13. The *****ing on this board is legendary, and even when seeking raw facts it's sometimes futile.

You can make 200K in 5 years if you: fly international and pick up OT, never call in sick, do not conflict vacation or training, basically have no life. I've been here almost 10 and do not make 200k. MOST 5 years fo's DO NOT make 200K.

On a side note, UPS also stated in their NTSB filing that:• UPS also builds our flight schedules to minimize fatigue.

As a base line trip holder, all I can say is they are full of ****!
Please don't believe everything you read from these fools.
And I fly over 30 hours a month!!!!!!!!!!

06-01-2014, 06:44 AM

#298

SVA402

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Originally Posted by Banana

Did you get the test?

06-01-2014, 06:48 AM

#299

Aviator 2k

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I have only flew for military and government. Reading all these forums it's hard to decide if it's better to go to a legacy or wait for UPS/FedEx. With all the retirements at the legacies it would be a lot quicker upgrade. Looking at the pay charts seems that the pay would average out over time (longer upgrade at UPS/FedEx). Can anyone shed some light on contracts/QOL/benefits. My ultimate goal is to have more time off and better economic future for family. Working 40hrs/week and being capped in pay as a GS is getting old quick.

06-01-2014, 07:08 AM

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navigatro

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Originally Posted by Aviator 2k

Apply everywhere (that you would leave your current job for)

Take the first job offer and class date that is available.

If it is not your dream job, then repeat process.

Read airlinepilotcentral.com for pay/benefits.

QOL is subjective, but if you want max schedule flexibility, UPS is not the place.