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Old 07-01-2014, 10:07 AM
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The interview was over before it began. I’d failed the personality tests a week before the interview (the interview had been scheduled before the personality tests), but they brought me in anyway and didn’t tell me there was a problem until the interview portion in the afternoon. That probably explains why in the morning they just took the paperwork without looking at it and didn’t take fingerprints. The gentleman who called to schedule the interview said the paperwork would take about a half an hour. For me it took less than five minutes.
The sim was in the morning, then I was released for a couple hours before the interview in the afternoon. I returned early, and they finally came to get me a half hour or so late. When they brought me in, they told me I‘d failed the personality test but that they’d still allowed me come in for the experience--as if they were doing me a favor. Then they proceeded to humiliate me. It was pretty obvious they hadn’t seriously looked at my application. They cut me off in one question and later asked a follow up question that showed they weren’t listening to my answer. 5000+ hours in a C-130 wasn’t any good: I needed a job with a regional to get jet time. They assumed I’d flown the T-6 and the Kingair in training when I’d flown the T-37 and T-1, which was shown in the application. They also didn’t like my technical background.
I was pretty flustered after they told me they wouldn’t have brought me in except that they’d already scheduled the interview. From what they said, I guess the number of good recommendations I had pulled a trigger of some sort, and someone screwed up by calling me early. In hindsight, I suppose it could have been some kind of game. I’d heard about the hostile interview and the disinterested interview, but I’d also heard UPS interviews were not like that anymore. This was both hostile and disinterested. Or maybe patronizing would be a better description. I have to admit I’d probably have had a hard time with this type of interview strategy even if I’d been expecting it; as it was, my performance was an unmitigated disaster.
My experience seems very odd in the context of everything I’d heard. It was clear that they had no intention of hiring me from the start, and it seems strange that a major company would waste its time like that. I don’t know why they’d do what they did except that I’m a member of an “under-represented” group; maybe they needed to make some quota for the types of people they interview.
The sim was in an MD-11 trainer with no-motion. The sim profile was straightforward, but the machine itself was tough. It was hard to trim and get stable. Here are the questions I remember:
Who sent in recommendations for me?
Tell them what I knew about UPS (Emphasis on the air operations; they didn’t care about the history or the rest of the company.)
Tell them about myself.
Qualities of a good captain.
Three qualities that make me a good pilot.
Where have I applied; where will I apply?
Did I think I’d have a problem adapting to a jet?
Tell them about an emergency I had.
Something about decisions.
Tell them about a conflict I had.
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Old 07-01-2014, 10:15 AM
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Sorry to hear about that, but imagine dealing with that type of crap daily. That's how they are.

They probably did you a favor in the long run. Seriously.
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Old 07-01-2014, 10:37 AM
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That's UPS!!!
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Old 07-01-2014, 11:29 AM
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can70--sorry to hear about that, but that was a seriously messed-up sequence of events. If you don't mind sharing, what did the personality interview consist of? I'm not thinking of applying myself, but it might help others out there looking for a job.

In the old days, I'd encourage you to apply to FedEx and see if you could find a sponsor. These days, sponsors (at the junior level, anyway) have little to no sway--the HAL-9000 computer algorithm selects the candidates who are not called to interview, since we're WAY over-manned.

Good luck with your job search. You're among distinguished company--many of us have heard the "thanks but no thanks," and went on to bigger & better things. In my case, I am very grateful for my first rejection--were I hired at Brand X, I would never have pursued this gig. Cue the music: "Thank God for Unanswered Prayers."
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Never heard of an inline inviting an applicant to the office until the psyc and aptitude tests were cleared. The opener's comments seem rather similar in nature to the thread starter of another UPS interview experience.
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Originally Posted by captjns View Post
never heard of an inline inviting an applicant to the office until the psyc and aptitude tests were cleared. The opener's comments seem rather similar in nature to the thread starter of another ups interview experience.
^^^ this ^^^
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Dude has 3 posts- TIFWIW
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Originally Posted by chignutsak View Post
Dude has 3 posts- TIFWIW
Why should he have more than 3 posts? Especially for someone who likely came here looking for info for an interview?
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Why should he have more than 3 posts? Especially for someone who likely came here looking for info for an interview?
uh, didn't he already have the interview ?

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Old 07-01-2014, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by satpak77 View Post
uh, didn't he already have the interview ?

First two posts were from March before his interview. His last post was today, after his interview.

You think he's been planning this conspiracy to make a fake UPS interview post for the past four months?
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