Let him ride upfront! how's he supposed to learn?

 

Really, quit being an age bigot!

 

Age bigots? If I didn't think you might be serious, I would think that was pretty funny (it's not though). I don't view the issue as an age descrimination one, rather it's just that you are sitting in my seat (and seniority number). It's my turn to get it. See ya later old man.

And George, you've bragged many times on this board about how well your investiments have done. So why fly past 60 anyway? Your family wouldn't like to spend more time with you? You have no hobbies?

Here is the part of the over 60 arguement that I just don't understand, especially for the guys that have their 25 years of employment time. How much would the company pay you to retire at 60? How much will they pay you to be a 727 s/o (the DC-10's will be gone soon)? Subtract the difference ... that's what you are really working for. Is it really worth being awake all night for the small difference? It's not to me.

Get a hobby, volunteer at the local nursing home, teach a class at the local community college, garden, fish ... get a life and enjoy your retirement! You really don't want to be a 727 s/o do you George?

Mark

 

Mark, you appear to be a Bigot. Get reformed, or you may have to get a new job. It is none of your business what choice I or others make. The way I see it you may be gone soon. Make my day!

 

Nobody here is an age bigot. We didn't make the rules and we won't make the new ones. If they up the age it won't be because they have sympathy for anyone, or their plight, or their desires.

The rules are made to satisfy the airlines. Congress and the FAA will do whatever it is that gets them reelection funding or budget funding. We get to live with the rules.

 

i am not for the age 60 deal for reasons such as possible medical changes and or b-fund abolishment etc...but with other airlines around the world adopting it i think it will definately change...what a blessing for fdx guys who didn't save for their retirement(all the dc-10 s/os) or blew it on ex-wives(foxhunter)......i refer to fdx guys because the pax guys have legitimate reasons...like pensions being eliminated...noone here is an age bigot because we will all be there one day...and where is maydaymark going?

 

Why do all the young guys think that everyone "blew" their retirement. Furlough, elimination of pension plans (that some guys WORKED 30 years to earn), are all factors in guys needing to work past 60. Also, the government doesn't really want you to retire "early" - reduced social Security at age 62. There is no way to have saved enough money to replace reduced/eliminated pension benefits - those were negotiated in good faith and the unions gave up something (matching 401K, defined contribution plan, lower pay, tougher work rules) in order to get a pension. I believe (and I will be affected by the age 60 rule) if guys are physically qualified and want to do it they should be allowed to work past 60. Remember, a lot of us will live until 90-100 - there's nothing wrong with working until 65.

 

Why do some guys not read the whole statement:

 

yeah...read the whole statement...!

 

I don't agree with raising the age 60 rule so I'm a bigot? OK ... if you say so George. And just for the record, if you and your old buddies stick around past age 60, it affects my seniority for the rest of my career. So ... I argue that it is my business. It'll have MUCH more affect on my career than yours. I'm surprised you don't see that perspective (notice I didn't say you had to agree with it).

I recommend you get ready for your second career. Can you say, "Welcome to Walmart" George? Or how about, "Would you like fries with that?" If the age 60 rule changes it will likely be after your 60th birthday. We'll all hope so anyway. But either way, you can be my s/o any day. I always liked flying with my dad when I was younger.

And George ... I want you to remember (when you are my s/o) that there is only one other seat in the airplane that sits sideways! And it flushes!

Mark