Stagnating wages
03-13-2015, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by olly
what about market penetration, target market, logistics, and transortation of goods? The market for those luxury cars is far larger in US than europe.
Know several small business owners and in discussing these topics, they say markets, sales, logistics and transportation aspects far outweigh taxes & regulation in their decision making
Know several small business owners and in discussing these topics, they say markets, sales, logistics and transportation aspects far outweigh taxes & regulation in their decision making
There are many factors, but the real enemy is anything which tends to kill profit or increase expense without tangible benefit.
03-13-2015, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jungle
Yes, that is why Mercedes, BMW and other heavy German industry is constructing plants in the US at a furious rate.
It isn't about unions or CEO pay, it is about an environment of regulation and taxation which forces business to move to other countries.
It isn't about unions or CEO pay, it is about an environment of regulation and taxation which forces business to move to other countries.
German auto workers have taken deals to keep jobs in Germany. German companies have opened plants around the world while trying to keep their domestic plants. A balancing act you might say. The German middle class did not really gain ground as Greece's and Italy's middle class did as they partied after joined the Euro. Germany was almost in austerity mode.
The middle class in Germany has done o.k. but not well since 2008. Greece's and Italy's have taken huge hits.
03-13-2015, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jungle
Yes, that is why Mercedes, BMW and other heavy German industry is constructing plants in the US at a furious rate.
03-13-2015, 12:28 PM
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Labor and Taxes, those are two things that can vary a great deal. They can give a company a huge advantage or just make a shareholders more money. Apples shell company(s) in Ireland come to mind.
Companies invest a lot to figure out how to reduce either or both.
This is very much about Executive and Shareholder compensation. That is the point.
The U.S. is governed by corporations, not the people.
Companies invest a lot to figure out how to reduce either or both.
This is very much about Executive and Shareholder compensation. That is the point.
The U.S. is governed by corporations, not the people.
03-13-2015, 02:11 PM
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I don't think public-sector unions are to blame. PS unions are kept in check because of the free market system. If they get too greedy and the company can't make profits, the company fails and so does the PS union.
The real problem with America is the ever growing Federal Government and burdensome Federal/State Regulations. You can also throw in allowing our borders and immigration systems to be open, flooding the economy with low skill, low education, benefit dependent illegal aliens.
The Federal Government took in the highest tax revenue in history last year. However, they still couldn't balance their budget. And because of baseline budgeting gimmicks, very few if any at all Federal Agencies see "real" cuts to their budgets -- they only see changes to the rates of increase in budgets.
To make matters worse, as the government expands and grows, more money is wasted, stolen from necessary programs to fund stupid and wasteful programs. This means there's less money in the budget to do the things taxes were paid for in the first place: repair infrastructure, schools, military, healthcare, etc.etc. The bigger it gets, the more waste, the less money there is available.
Our Federal Government is sucking our country dry. I'm not saying I want dirty air and water, reckless corporate free-for-all. We need rational policies and regulations and a rational tax code.
As someone alluded to earlier, we have roughly 90 million people of working age not in the labor force. That is not sustainable. We can't afford that. Yet we keep allowing illegals into our country. Illegals undermine the workforce, cause wage depression, and allow businesses who use them to undercut those who play by the rules.
Moving on from the out of control Federal Government, we then turn to the National Debt. Even though the USA took in record tax revenues last year, we still added $484 billion dollars to the national debt which currently stands at $18.2 trillion dollars.
The largest budget items are Medicare/Medicaid $926B, Social Security $806B, Defense $594B, Income Security $310B, and Federal Pensions $251B.
The cost of our debt is roughly $240 Billion a year. If you be the CBO Accounting Office, they project our debt payment to increase to nearly $800 Billion a year. Of course those CBO folks seem to always underestimate a projected cost.
If they can't balance the budget now with record tax revenues, how in the hell are they going to balance the budget when the debt interest payments increase due to higher interest rate increases?
All of this crap takes a huge burden on our companies, large and small. This is why wages have gone down.
The real problem with America is the ever growing Federal Government and burdensome Federal/State Regulations. You can also throw in allowing our borders and immigration systems to be open, flooding the economy with low skill, low education, benefit dependent illegal aliens.
The Federal Government took in the highest tax revenue in history last year. However, they still couldn't balance their budget. And because of baseline budgeting gimmicks, very few if any at all Federal Agencies see "real" cuts to their budgets -- they only see changes to the rates of increase in budgets.
To make matters worse, as the government expands and grows, more money is wasted, stolen from necessary programs to fund stupid and wasteful programs. This means there's less money in the budget to do the things taxes were paid for in the first place: repair infrastructure, schools, military, healthcare, etc.etc. The bigger it gets, the more waste, the less money there is available.
Our Federal Government is sucking our country dry. I'm not saying I want dirty air and water, reckless corporate free-for-all. We need rational policies and regulations and a rational tax code.
As someone alluded to earlier, we have roughly 90 million people of working age not in the labor force. That is not sustainable. We can't afford that. Yet we keep allowing illegals into our country. Illegals undermine the workforce, cause wage depression, and allow businesses who use them to undercut those who play by the rules.
Moving on from the out of control Federal Government, we then turn to the National Debt. Even though the USA took in record tax revenues last year, we still added $484 billion dollars to the national debt which currently stands at $18.2 trillion dollars.
The largest budget items are Medicare/Medicaid $926B, Social Security $806B, Defense $594B, Income Security $310B, and Federal Pensions $251B.
The cost of our debt is roughly $240 Billion a year. If you be the CBO Accounting Office, they project our debt payment to increase to nearly $800 Billion a year. Of course those CBO folks seem to always underestimate a projected cost.
If they can't balance the budget now with record tax revenues, how in the hell are they going to balance the budget when the debt interest payments increase due to higher interest rate increases?
All of this crap takes a huge burden on our companies, large and small. This is why wages have gone down.
03-13-2015, 02:28 PM
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Careful please.
The other day we had an "old guy versus new guy" thread. Now we have a right versus left thread. Not pointing fingers at the original poster, but during contract negotiations we should be coming together.
Not coming at each other.
Not coming at each other.
03-13-2015, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
I don't think public-sector unions are to blame. PS unions are kept in check because of the free market system. If they get too greedy and the company can't make profits, the company fails and so does the PS union.
The real problem with America is the ever growing Federal Government and burdensome Federal/State Regulations. You can also throw in allowing our borders and immigration systems to be open, flooding the economy with low skill, low education, benefit dependent illegal aliens.
The Federal Government took in the highest tax revenue in history last year. However, they still couldn't balance their budget. And because of baseline budgeting gimmicks, very few if any at all Federal Agencies see "real" cuts to their budgets -- they only see changes to the rates of increase in budgets.
To make matters worse, as the government expands and grows, more money is wasted, stolen from necessary programs to fund stupid and wasteful programs. This means there's less money in the budget to do the things taxes were paid for in the first place: repair infrastructure, schools, military, healthcare, etc.etc. The bigger it gets, the more waste, the less money there is available.
Our Federal Government is sucking our country dry. I'm not saying I want dirty air and water, reckless corporate free-for-all. We need rational policies and regulations and a rational tax code.
As someone alluded to earlier, we have roughly 90 million people of working age not in the labor force. That is not sustainable. We can't afford that. Yet we keep allowing illegals into our country. Illegals undermine the workforce, cause wage depression, and allow businesses who use them to undercut those who play by the rules.
Moving on from the out of control Federal Government, we then turn to the National Debt. Even though the USA took in record tax revenues last year, we still added $484 billion dollars to the national debt which currently stands at $18.2 trillion dollars.
The largest budget items are Medicare/Medicaid $926B, Social Security $806B, Defense $594B, Income Security $310B, and Federal Pensions $251B.
The cost of our debt is roughly $240 Billion a year. If you be the CBO Accounting Office, they project our debt payment to increase to nearly $800 Billion a year. Of course those CBO folks seem to always underestimate a projected cost.
If they can't balance the budget now with record tax revenues, how in the hell are they going to balance the budget when the debt interest payments increase due to higher interest rate increases?
All of this crap takes a huge burden on our companies, large and small. This is why wages have gone down.
The real problem with America is the ever growing Federal Government and burdensome Federal/State Regulations. You can also throw in allowing our borders and immigration systems to be open, flooding the economy with low skill, low education, benefit dependent illegal aliens.
The Federal Government took in the highest tax revenue in history last year. However, they still couldn't balance their budget. And because of baseline budgeting gimmicks, very few if any at all Federal Agencies see "real" cuts to their budgets -- they only see changes to the rates of increase in budgets.
To make matters worse, as the government expands and grows, more money is wasted, stolen from necessary programs to fund stupid and wasteful programs. This means there's less money in the budget to do the things taxes were paid for in the first place: repair infrastructure, schools, military, healthcare, etc.etc. The bigger it gets, the more waste, the less money there is available.
Our Federal Government is sucking our country dry. I'm not saying I want dirty air and water, reckless corporate free-for-all. We need rational policies and regulations and a rational tax code.
As someone alluded to earlier, we have roughly 90 million people of working age not in the labor force. That is not sustainable. We can't afford that. Yet we keep allowing illegals into our country. Illegals undermine the workforce, cause wage depression, and allow businesses who use them to undercut those who play by the rules.
Moving on from the out of control Federal Government, we then turn to the National Debt. Even though the USA took in record tax revenues last year, we still added $484 billion dollars to the national debt which currently stands at $18.2 trillion dollars.
The largest budget items are Medicare/Medicaid $926B, Social Security $806B, Defense $594B, Income Security $310B, and Federal Pensions $251B.
The cost of our debt is roughly $240 Billion a year. If you be the CBO Accounting Office, they project our debt payment to increase to nearly $800 Billion a year. Of course those CBO folks seem to always underestimate a projected cost.
If they can't balance the budget now with record tax revenues, how in the hell are they going to balance the budget when the debt interest payments increase due to higher interest rate increases?
All of this crap takes a huge burden on our companies, large and small. This is why wages have gone down.
The fact remains that only a sovereign individual may make the correct choices without force and with a free hand to choose the best means to move forward.
Force is never a valid argument, but around the world it is without a doubt the most widely used argument. Without force most of us would have no valid complaint, as it stands most complaints are about the lack of force applied.
In general gov operates purely on force, free choice is the only logical argument. Are you being forced to buy into something you don't want or are you offered to buy what you desire?
By the way, the national debt is well in excess of 200 trillion, clever accounting hides the real cost. Individuals are never allowed those rules of accounting.
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03-13-2015, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark2792
The other day we had an "old guy versus new guy" thread. Now we have a right versus left thread. Not pointing fingers at the original poster, but during contract negotiations we should be coming together.
Not coming at each other.
Not coming at each other.
We are a long way from that because people cling to the idea that exploiting others is a way of life. Old or new guy, left or right, you aren't going to win by claiming your monkeys and your circus, based purely on force, is the correct way.
03-13-2015, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark2792
The other day we had an "old guy versus new guy" thread. Now we have a right versus left thread. Not pointing fingers at the original poster, but during contract negotiations we should be coming together.
Not coming at each other.
Not coming at each other.
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