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busdriver12 06-14-2015 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by CompetentFool (Post 1904600)
I realize this seems to be common knowledge (that we die earlier than the average Joe) and it makes good fodder on a forum. But I'd like to see the scientific study that shows we actually die before our friends outside the industry. Also, are dying before our comrades at Delta/United/American as well? If there's a legit scientific study proving this hypothesis, it needs to be made aware to all of us at FedEx.

I would like to see this too. It seems like it would be incredibly easy for both the union and the company to compile this information. But I doubt it would be beneficial to the company to release the statistics. However, it would be appreciated---to either put the rumors to rest, or give us information that might help us protect our health. When are people dying, and what from? We would like to know that.

A few years back when we were doing the ground school courses in conjunction with CMV1, one of our instructors seemed to have the data, that he declared as fact. He said we were dying at an average age 64, and FedEx generally didn't have to provide retirement funds for more than a couple of years. So was he full of it, or does someone have the data?

It is pretty believable to me. I am weary of hearing of some otherwise healthy guy just died in his fifties, from causes unknown, sudden heart attack, or an unusual disease. I don't want to hear about another woman getting cancer. It's just too many people, and the obituaries I want to read are about a pilot dying after a long life in his or her nineties. Not in their fifties.

FDXLAG 06-14-2015 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 1904754)
I would like to see this too. It seems like it would be incredibly easy for both the union and the company to compile this information. But I doubt it would be beneficial to the company to release the statistics. However, it would be appreciated---to either put the rumors to rest, or give us information that might help us protect our health. When are people dying, and what from? We would like to know that.

A few years back when we were doing the ground school courses in conjunction with CMV1, one of our instructors seemed to have the data, that he declared as fact. He said we were dying at an average age 64, and FedEx generally didn't have to provide retirement funds for more than a couple of years. So was he full of it, or does someone have the data?

It is pretty believable to me. I am weary of hearing of some otherwise healthy guy just died in his fifties, from causes unknown, sudden heart attack, or an unusual disease. I don't want to hear about another woman getting cancer. It's just too many people, and the obituaries I want to read are about a pilot dying after a long life in his or her nineties. Not in their fifties.

Their is an ALPA board (consisting of FDX retired pilots) managing the post Medicare supplemental insurance fund that we all pay 50 cents an hour into. I am sure they have some data.

Full pull 06-14-2015 10:38 AM

In the article mentioned above, they worked 6 days in the same shift before they were rotated 8 hours latter plus one day to the next shift equaling 32 hours off before the change. I wish I had that much day or night purity in my lines.

busdriver12 06-14-2015 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1904834)
Their is an ALPA board (consisting of FDX retired pilots) managing the post Medicare supplemental insurance fund that we all pay 50 cents an hour into. I am sure they have some data.

Then maybe I should get off my butt and start asking. Will post anything I find out on this forum, of course.

MaydayMark 06-14-2015 02:49 PM

Pilot health (cancer?)
 
I vaguely remember (15 years ago?) a University study on pilot health. It might have been a FedEx pilot's kid or relative doing the study?

ALPA seemed to be onboard with the concept of this study and encouraged pilots to participate if surveyed during the study?

Anyone have more details than I do?


:eek:

Maybe it was in an appendix of the Ender's Safety Study that Management never shared with the pilots?

FWIW ... my previous airline Management used to post retired pilots obituaries on the Flight Ops bulletin board. It seemed like almost ALL of them died from some sort of cancer?

Mark2792 06-14-2015 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1904834)
Their is an ALPA board (consisting of FDX retired pilots) managing the post Medicare supplemental insurance fund that we all pay 50 cents an hour into. I am sure they have some data.

"There is an ALPA board"

:D

MaydayMark 06-14-2015 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Mark2792 (Post 1905147)
"There is an ALPA board"

:D


They're is an ALPA board? :confused:

busdriver12 06-14-2015 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 1905154)
They're is an ALPA board? :confused:

Ya'll better be getting your grammar act together, or a Grammar Nazi is going to take you down!:eek:

Because really, who cares if we're dropping dead like flies? Gotta use proper English.

Albief15 06-14-2015 04:30 PM

It ain't longevity tables that I worry about, its burning lithium batteries and undeclared HASMAT. Its flying with radioactive cargo. Its being extended to FAR limits that would be illegal with passengers on board.

Don't compare me to pax pilots. Our job is more dangerous, demanding, and profitable. Pay us more.

Nightflyer 06-14-2015 04:36 PM

I heard from a crew bus driver that the union and the company were "asked" by the NMB to meet again this week.

He said they are getting down to the money issues.

He said there would be a union conference call sometime this week.

The union is always saying we should stay "engaged and informed".

Sure would be nice if they would inform us about what is going on.

How can we stay "engaged" if they don't "inform" us?


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