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FoxHunter 06-14-2015 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 1904754)
It's just too many people, and the obituaries I want to read are about a pilot dying after a long life in his or her nineties. Not in their fifties.

From the Seaboard retired pilots.

Belated birthday wishes

Capt. Harry Donnell celebrated his 100th birthday on August 3rd, 2014 and John Willmott celebrated his 100th birthday on November 18th, 2014. A very belated happy birthday to Harry and John.

busdriver12 06-14-2015 06:54 PM

"Belated birthday wishes

Capt. Harry Donnell celebrated his 100th birthday on August 3rd, 2014 and John Willmott celebrated his 100th birthday on November 18th, 2014. A very belated happy birthday to Harry and John."

That is awesome!

However, I actually meant I'd prefer reading about FedEx pilots dying in their nineties instead of their fifties (not that there would be many at this point even if they all survived since retirement, anyways). Those guys would have been about 75 when FedEx acquired Tigers, so they never flew one day here.

FoxHunter 06-15-2015 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 1905334)
"Belated birthday wishes

Capt. Harry Donnell celebrated his 100th birthday on August 3rd, 2014 and John Willmott celebrated his 100th birthday on November 18th, 2014. A very belated happy birthday to Harry and John."

That is awesome!

However, I actually meant I'd prefer reading about FedEx pilots dying in their nineties instead of their fifties (not that there would be many at this point even if they all survived since retirement, anyways). Those guys would have been about 75 when FedEx acquired Tigers, so they never flew one day here.

I think you will find it difficult to find many FedEx pilots reaching their 90s because the company is so young.

I suggest you email RK FedEx ALPA Aeromedical guy. I had a conversation with him about the issue about 5 years ago. According to Ross ALPA did have a study done, but for some reason they have not published it. The result showed that pilots lived a long time, better than the general population.

The two Seaboard pilots that reached age 100 did most of their flying at a time where only a few weird guys were runners. Hotel gyms were unheard of. If you happened to be a non smoker you probably shared the cockpit with three smokers. If you were flying passenger flights the F/As came to the cockpit for a smoke break.

Yes we all read about the guy that dies of a heart attack at age 52 or the guy that dies of cancer at age 32. They are the exception.

CompetentFool 06-15-2015 04:12 AM

[QUOTE=FoxHunter;1905451]The result showed that pilots lived a long time, better than the general population.[QUOTE]

This is what I'm talking about. It's a general belief that we die early but maybe in reality we live as long as the average dude. I just don't know.

USMCFDX 06-15-2015 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 1905451)

Yes we all read about the guy that dies of a heart attack at age 52 or the guy that dies of cancer at age 32. They are the exception.

There have been a lot of exceptions at FedEx in the last few years.

MD11HOG 06-15-2015 06:16 AM

An article quoting a study with some numbers from ALPA https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141...er-than-others

FoxHunter 06-15-2015 09:13 AM

Here is a list from the FTL retired pilot web site. I would say the average pilot lives to his 80s early 90s.

MEMORIAM

IrishSkies 06-15-2015 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 1905451)
I think you will find it difficult to find many FedEx pilots reaching their 90s because the company is so young.

I suggest you email RK FedEx ALPA Aeromedical guy. I had a conversation with him about the issue about 5 years ago. According to Ross ALPA did have a study done, but for some reason they have not published it. The result showed that pilots lived a long time, better than the general population.

The two Seaboard pilots that reached age 100 did most of their flying at a time where only a few weird guys were runners. Hotel gyms were unheard of. If you happened to be a non smoker you probably shared the cockpit with three smokers. If you were flying passenger flights the F/As came to the cockpit for a smoke break.

Yes we all read about the guy that dies of a heart attack at age 52 or the guy that dies of cancer at age 32. They are the exception.

One question, were you MANAGEMENT?

FoxHunter 06-15-2015 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by irishskies (Post 1905766)
one question, were you management?

No, Never!

busdriver12 06-15-2015 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by IrishSkies (Post 1905766)
One question, were you MANAGEMENT?


Kind of making me wonder, here. A little unrealistic, saying that the average pilot lives to his 80's to early 90's. Not even close, even from his own list. Just going through the first 50 or so...most pilots were dying in their seventies, with plenty dying in their fifties and sixties. Yes, some guys made it to their eighties and even some in their nineties, but that was not the average pilot. Most of those guys probably didn't even fly for FedEx for more than a short time, if at all.

Even passenger carrier pilots have a shorter lifespan than the average American. Look at MD11 Hog's link, for just one example. Thinking that we don't have this problem is wishful thinking, if not delusional.:confused:


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