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TonyC 06-12-2015 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 1903333)

Tony or anyone - what's the history on our 15 year scales? How in the world did we ever get those when industry standard was 12?


It's a holdover from the Flight Crew Handbook, which was created in 1975. I don't know if the FCH started out with a 15 year scale or if it was changed later, but the "FedEx Pilot History" on the ALPA website mentions an effort in 1984 by The Company to institute a 13-year, 2-tier pay system. That was followed by a petition signed by 95% of the pilots (sounds like unity?) which was followed by a public chewing-out of the pilots by Massah Fred.






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ClutchCargo 06-12-2015 04:01 PM

IIRC FX management unilaterally imposed this during the self-help period of 1995-96. It gave anybody with 12+ years on the property an instant "pay raise".


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FedupFlex 06-12-2015 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by ClutchCargo (Post 1903397)
IIRC FX management unilaterally imposed this during the self-help period of 1995-96. It gave anybody with 12+ years on the property an instant "pay raise".


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Yeppp, that's exactly how FDX ended up with a 15 year pay scale.

TonyC 06-12-2015 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by ClutchCargo (Post 1903397)

... during the self-help period of 1995-96.


Self-help continued until December, 1998.






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Flybywyr 06-13-2015 06:33 AM

Just talked to my buddy at Delta. He is prior NWA, and is a thumbs down. He said the profit sharing give back and sick leave change are enough to say no. He got a 20% profit sharing last year alone. The pilots profit sharing is tied to other work groups so if the pilots get less the company can reduce the profit sharing of those groups also.

Me personally I could care less if I'm making $330 an hour. When we have pilots dying at 55 what good is a high hourly rate ? Not only do we have to keep our work rules and vacation but we need BETTER work rules. What the company has done to our schedules is killing us. I remember when I wouldn't bid any international trip with less than a 24hr layover, now you're lucky to have 24hrs.

ClutchCargo 06-13-2015 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 1903556)
Self-help continued until December, 1998.













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I know. I meant it was sometime during 95-96 that it was imposed.


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TonyC 06-13-2015 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by ClutchCargo (Post 1903831)

I know. I meant it was sometime during 95-96 that it was imposed.


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Ahh, gotcha.






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IrishSkies 06-13-2015 11:55 AM

Profit sharing
 
[QUOTE=Flybywyr;1903805]Just talked to my buddy at Delta. He is prior NWA, and is a thumbs down. He said the profit sharing give back and sick leave change are enough to say no. He got a 20% profit sharing last year alone. The pilots profit sharing is tied to other work groups so if the pilots get less the company can reduce the profit sharing of those groups also.

Does anyone know why we never discuss profit sharing at FDX?
Is that something unique to the pax carriers or am I missing something obvious?

TonyC 06-13-2015 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by IrishSkies (Post 1904115)

Does anyone know why we never discuss profit sharing at FDX?
Is that something unique to the pax carriers or am I missing something obvious?


We had profit sharing before we had a CBA. In fact, our last Profit Sharing Check was not only held hostage to ratification of the CBA, it was delayed by 6 months to punish us.






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MEMA300 06-13-2015 01:24 PM

We exchanged the profit sharing for the B-fund. Cost neutral baby! Our pie never
gets bigger we just get to decide what it tastes like.


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