Do you guys have lines or trips that are held by line check airmen pulled from FOs bidding them?


(and yes the DL TA is a turd. :( )

Sort of. You can bid line that a LCA is on and get bumped some. But in theory all of our training are line trips where one or both guys get bumped.

Instructor spend 1 out of 3 months "in the schoolhouse" and are assigned trips and students at the beginning of the month. Everyone is usually happy.

I believe this part of the contract is the same as when I left Purple.....If either/both of the bubbas are bumped for IOE, they get paid, and have NO recovery obligation.

Guys would buddy bid me, and in a growth phase, they could get the entire month off at full line credit....many times every one of my line trips had an IOE student assigned....the bumpee could volunteer to fly on any of those days and receive that pay, plus his bumped trip pay.

There is/was none of that holding trips out of line construction to assign to LCA's for IOE.......seems like a real give back to DAL mgt, to the detriment of all F/O's.

Best of luck,
BG

That sounds like what we have now at DL.

The new TA, the captains will bid, and then they will pull 75% of the trips that line check airmen got awarded from the pot for the FO's to bid.

Crappy crappiness.

At UPS, all the LCA Lines are locked out for the FO's to Bid.

I hated this when I was an FO. I think it was a slap to the Seniority System. If one could hold a LCA line, he should be awarded it.

Not at UPS. Why the IPA accepted this is mind blowing. Back in 1991.

Thanks, Commando! I'm amazed that this exists, and you're right it's absolutely an abrogation of seniority.

You can say that again. What does it matter if we are DYING at 55? Or if we're lucky, living beyond that and dying 14-15 years earlier than the average American?

Though I suppose one could argue that if we had a much higher hourly pay rate, then we could drop more trips. Work less=live longer. But it's not in most pilot's DNA to work less. Though I am enjoying the summer, and working on my longevity.

I realize this seems to be common knowledge (that we die earlier than the average Joe) and it makes good fodder on a forum. But I'd like to see the scientific study that shows we actually die before our friends outside the industry. Also, are dying before our comrades at Delta/United/American as well? If there's a legit scientific study proving this hypothesis, it needs to be made aware to all of us at FedEx.

It's in all our DNA to work less. To be specific, it's in our DNA to work less for more. Management has the same DNA.

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