Oh Boy, here we go again with another 20 page thread about hiring and life at UPS.

Still in the pool.

How UPS Sucks? Try 40 pages.

Oh yea, when is our next airplane delivery? Never?

Just shortly thereafter, but it's a delivery to the boneyard for some of the MD's.

Right after we get a new contract, or never

Come on people!

Truth Hurts FOforlife? Can't u pass an Upgrade? I know, it is a pain. But the facts are UPS has Hired maybe 70 pilots Since 2007. That's 8 years my friend. With a trickle going forward. 100 new hires over 10 years?

No Aircraft orders since 2005? Yes indeed, this place does suck. And I'm a 21 year CA. So it must be bad.

+1 What he said.

UPS has hired 90 pilots since 2007. We have 750 mandatory retirements over the next 10 years. The past 10 years show that we have had about half again as many retirements over the mandatory number. The next 10 years could realistically see over 1100 retirements.

B2P

Two UPS FQS (Mgt pilots) have had hard landings in the last 6 weeks while conducting IOE. One was the hardest documented A300 landing ever. Plane is back in service but had extensive mx done to it.

FAA and UPS is awakening to the reality that FQS doing training is a real safety issue. FAA wants them to fly the line much, much more than they normally have done. UPS doesn't want to pay to displace union pilots so Mgt can fly the line. IPA has been quiet about the matter as negotiations are on going.