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Rocket Bob 12-23-2015 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Kougarok (Post 2033377)
Ahh but they might not to do it by themselves. Remember that express cargo airline that worked out of a cornfield in Ohio? Well the pieces are still around!

Seriously, you're delusional if you think Amazon Air can get all of the pieces in place to handle a few hundred million packages next Christmas. Give me a break, good luck finding enough sort employees in that cornfield. im not saying Amazon can't be a successful delivery company, just saying it's going to be a long process.

airbus300 12-23-2015 01:15 PM

Lately, though, the companies’ relationship has been strained. A few years ago, UPS shared some of its routing data with Amazon, according to an executive. When Amazon requested additional data, UPS—by then wary of the retailer’s intentions—refused, that executive added.

Amazon has poached more than 40 UPS supervisors, managers and executives in the last three years, according to an analysis of LinkedIn data. In September, Kniffen Kelly, a 16-year veteran working on engineering UPS’s transportation networks, left to become Amazon’s director of sort center engineering.

Cut and paste of an article from the Wall Street journal.

The Walrus 12-23-2015 02:00 PM

Are they still planning to use Uber drivers to deliver the packages?

airbus300 12-23-2015 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by The Walrus (Post 2033448)
Are they still planning to use Uber drivers to deliver the packages?

After Seattle, Amazon Flex will launch in Manhattan, Chicago, Baltimore, Miami, Dallas, Austin, Indianapolis, Atlanta, and Portland. The company has not set a timeline for its expansion. Drivers make $18-$25 per hour. Work as much or as little as you want.

Amazon’s Flex service is not impacted by Seattle’s move to make it possible for Uber and Lyft drivers to unionize, as reported this week by the Wall Street Journal. That ordinance impacts drivers shuttling human passengers, not packages. (Cargo cut-out).

(Article off internet)

atpcliff 12-23-2015 02:18 PM

Atlas stock is up $1.50 today on this Amazon talk.

From various articles:
Amazon has a long term deal with the USPS. They will deliver to the customer. The last mile is very, very expensive, just as the last mile of data for internet/tv/phone, etc. Amazon will deliver directly to the closest post office, via truck, and the USPS will deliver it to the door.

20-25 planes, other sources say the plan is 60, while others state it is to be larger than FedEx or UPS, as far as Domestic packages. I wonder about international?

brownie 12-23-2015 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by airbus300 (Post 2033423)
Lately, though, the companies’ relationship has been strained. A few years ago, UPS shared some of its routing data with Amazon, according to an executive. When Amazon requested additional data, UPS—by then wary of the retailer’s intentions—refused, that executive added.

Amazon has poached more than 40 UPS supervisors, managers and executives in the last three years, according to an analysis of LinkedIn data. In September, Kniffen Kelly, a 16-year veteran working on engineering UPS’s transportation networks, left to become Amazon’s director of sort center engineering.

Cut and paste of an article from the Wall Street journal.

Remember the 40 brightest ex brown that Amazon managed to assemble together are the same fellows in charge when the memorable peak 2013 took place.I wonder if they hired Mr. peak also.

BoilerUP 12-23-2015 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by atpcliff
20-25 planes, other sources say the plan is 60, while others state it is to be larger than FedEx or UPS, as far as Domestic packages.

I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

Ludicrous Speed 12-23-2015 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 2033355)
Seriously? Who will blink first?

I agree with Rocket Bob in the post below yours. If UPS and FedEx sometimes have trouble delivering packages, I would love to see Amazon do it all by themselves next Christmas.

It would be an unmitigated disaster.

And you know this, how?

Me thinks that there is no fact base to your prediction and it's just your wishful thinking.

Swedish Blender 12-23-2015 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed (Post 2033467)
And you know this, how?

Me thinks that there is no fact base to your prediction and it's just your wishful thinking.

So you think Amazon could have everything ready to go next Christmas and deliver millions of packages with 20 airplanes and some uber drivers.

Got it.

Almost There 12-23-2015 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Rocket Bob (Post 2033404)
Seriously, you're delusional if you think Amazon Air can get all of the pieces in place to handle a few hundred million packages next Christmas. Give me a break, good luck finding enough sort employees in that cornfield. im not saying Amazon can't be a successful delivery company, just saying it's going to be a long process.

Finding enough sort employees won't be a problem. Finding enough 767's is the problem.


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