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Czech Airman 11-03-2015 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by pipe (Post 2004880)
This looks like a good way to turn $90 Billion into $45 Billion.

Of all the things in the world to invest in, airlines aren't historically a great choice.

Why would you take a great money printing operation and expose it to fuel prices, terrorism, FAA, ICAO, weather, etc? As it runs now, they are able to pass all blame and risk in those areas on.

Pipe

They won't. What you'll see is Amazon going the ACMI or CMI route. It will be like DHL on steroids. Amazon will pit one contractor vs. another to pressure them to continually lower their costs.

Sideshow Bob 11-03-2015 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Czech Airman (Post 2004893)
They won't. What you'll see is Amazon going the ACMI or CMI route. It will be like DHL on steroids. Amazon will pit one contractor vs. another to pressure them to continually lower their costs.

Given Bezos is such a highly regarded "progressive", he will of course welcome unions and offer those handling his product THE best compensation and benefit packages....right?:rolleyes:

He will demand Part 117 for all!

Get ready for FDX plus all you ACMI guys!

Czech Airman 11-03-2015 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob (Post 2004914)
Given Bezos is such a highly regarded "progressive", he will of course welcome unions and offer those handling his product THE best compensation and benefit packages....right?:rolleyes:

Get ready for FDX plus all you ACMI guys!

A portfolio of contractors will give Amazon the flexibility needed to take on FedEx and UPS.

Sideshow Bob 11-03-2015 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Czech Airman (Post 2004933)
A portfolio of contractors will give Amazon the flexibility needed to take on FedEx and UPS.

And seeing how swell Bezos is, offer top pay and benefits...out of his own pocket!

Wow...maybe I'll quit and sign up!

Spike from flyi 11-03-2015 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by brownie (Post 2004704)
Ups airline was created when there were no cell phones smart tv Google Facebook Twitter and so on . you can't simply reinvent wheel from 1987 in 2015. if you don't belive me go ask Eastern and pan am guys.

Yeah, this ain't 1911; who does Sam Walton think he is, going head to head with the mighty F.W. Woolworth?

BoilerUP 11-03-2015 03:35 PM

If Amazon wants to create its own nationwide warehouse-to-customer delivery network, I imagine they believe doing so will allow them to provide better service at lower prices than the Big 3 established parcel service (USPS, FDX, UPS).

Can they develop such a delivery network? I'm sure they could, but the Capex required to develop the infrastructure to get there would be astronomical.

Could they do it such that they eclipse any of the above carriers in volume in just *two* years? Absolutely positively not, and anybody who suggests otherwise needs a whiz quiz.

Spike from flyi 11-04-2015 02:21 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 2004993)
If Amazon wants to create its own nationwide warehouse-to-customer delivery network, I imagine they believe doing so will allow them to provide better service at lower prices than the Big 3 established parcel service (USPS, FDX, UPS).

Can they develop such a delivery network? I'm sure they could, but the Capex required to develop the infrastructure to get there would be astronomical.

Could they do it such that they eclipse any of the above carriers in volume in just *two* years? Absolutely positively not, and anybody who suggests otherwise needs a whiz quiz.

Sure! Where would they find a sort facility, just lying dormant; and a workforce population just waiting for jobs? Those Amazon guys are just SO naive!

BoilerUP 11-04-2015 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by Spike from flyi (Post 2005184)
Sure! Where would they find a sort facility, just lying dormant; and a workforce population just waiting for jobs? Those Amazon guys are just SO naive!

A nationwide warehouse-to-customer delivery network requires much, much, MUCH more than just an empty ILN air sort facility.

BizPilot 11-04-2015 04:23 AM

Amazon will take the easy way out
 
Amazon can buy FDX, plain and simple. Just check out their market capitalizations.

FDXLAG 11-04-2015 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by BizPilot (Post 2005226)
Amazon can buy FDX, plain and simple. Just check out their market capitalizations.

Not out of the question, but what would happen then? Would FDX gain or lose customers? The joke about how to become a millionaire comes to mind.


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