Atlas Air pilot negotiations
09-15-2017, 10:49 AM
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Atlas Air pilot negotiations
I know there are multiple threads for Atlas already, but I didn't seem to see one dedicated to the progress of getting a new contract.
As of today I see it has been over 372 days. I'm not looking for a crystal ball saying when it will come to fruition, but rather any updates as they happen.
Since July 6th, what has been going on?
As of today I see it has been over 372 days. I'm not looking for a crystal ball saying when it will come to fruition, but rather any updates as they happen.
Since July 6th, what has been going on?
09-15-2017, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Groundpointfife
I know there are multiple threads for Atlas already, but I didn't seem to see one dedicated to the progress of getting a new contract.
As of today I see it has been over 372 days. I'm not looking for a crystal ball saying when it will come to fruition, but rather any updates as they happen.
Since July 6th, what has been going on?
As of today I see it has been over 372 days. I'm not looking for a crystal ball saying when it will come to fruition, but rather any updates as they happen.
Since July 6th, what has been going on?
Several of the less important sections were negotiated and not agreed upon.
All of the important sections are still open and have not even been touched yet.
Negotiations dates have been agreed upon for the next 6 months, but if the company won't agree to the easy sections then there is no hope for the more important ones.
Don't expect to see a new contract for at least 2-3 MORE years.
09-15-2017, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NoJoy
^^yep. 2020 we might see something to vote on.
09-15-2017, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Screwed
Several of the less important sections have been negotiated and agreed.
Several of the less important sections were negotiated and not agreed upon.
All of the important sections are still open and have not even been touched yet.
Negotiations dates have been agreed upon for the next 6 months, but if the company won't agree to the easy sections then there is no hope for the more important ones.
Don't expect to see a new contract for at least 2-3 MORE years.
Several of the less important sections were negotiated and not agreed upon.
All of the important sections are still open and have not even been touched yet.
Negotiations dates have been agreed upon for the next 6 months, but if the company won't agree to the easy sections then there is no hope for the more important ones.
Don't expect to see a new contract for at least 2-3 MORE years.
I think your assessment is correct that it's at least 3 years out, which is disappointing, but at least it's realistic.
When are the dates for the next 6 months so those following can get a better idea of how things progress?
09-17-2017, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Groundpointfife
How is the compensation part looking?
This whole set of negotiations going on now is just a dog and pony show being put on by the company! They are trying to fool the customers, banks, and shareholders into believing progress is being made. All designed just to get them through the 4th quarter.
09-17-2017, 12:43 PM
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How is attrition going, and will Atlas be able to staff the flying they have?
I'd imagine if attrition outpaced recruitment, then there would be pressure on management to get something put together to attract talent. Or do people feel that they'd rather beach contract(s) and lose flying before they pay another dime?
I'd imagine if attrition outpaced recruitment, then there would be pressure on management to get something put together to attract talent. Or do people feel that they'd rather beach contract(s) and lose flying before they pay another dime?
09-17-2017, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Groundpointfife
How is attrition going, and will Atlas be able to staff the flying they have?
I'd imagine if attrition outpaced recruitment, then there would be pressure on management to get something put together to attract talent. Or do people feel that they'd rather beach contract(s) and lose flying before they pay another dime?
I'd imagine if attrition outpaced recruitment, then there would be pressure on management to get something put together to attract talent. Or do people feel that they'd rather beach contract(s) and lose flying before they pay another dime?
09-17-2017, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by captainv
In general, they have outpaced attrition, lately by running large classes every three weeks. 747's last class was in July, however, and 767 has two more classes this year (announced). This keeps the list growing incrementally. It is not enough to staff continued Amazon deliveries or any new business.
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