Atlas Air pilot negotiations
10-04-2017, 07:56 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Given the track record of labor law I'd say we win one of two. I'd rather win the Amalgamation Law Suit because it forces them into Section 6 where we can vote down a bad TA.
10-04-2017, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Stratocruzr
Only the beginning.
ALL instructors are being sent to the line for 4the Qtr. there will be no new hire training. Attrition will continue. Already low in pilots? Going to get much worse.
ALL instructors are being sent to the line for 4the Qtr. there will be no new hire training. Attrition will continue. Already low in pilots? Going to get much worse.
Whale driver - I'll yield to you about the delivery schedule. I'd heard it had been pushed back but can't find a source for it. All 12 flying Amazon routes by year's end seems like a stretch, though.
10-08-2017, 10:13 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by captainv
We've already missed the original target for the 20 Amazon airplanes. Maybe they'll delay/defer some. Maybe they'll reduce reserve coverage. Maybe they'll... Who knows?
10-12-2017, 06:37 PM
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FYI
Atlas has suspended crew for two months, no pay for asking for coffee. They thought the delay was for coffe but the cargo was still being loaded created delay.
This should be an easy fight for the union but the company is taking hostages any way they can. And during that time you will be without pay and now a mark on your HR record that the next airline will be looking at.
Know your contract and where you take a stand.
Atlas has suspended crew for two months, no pay for asking for coffee. They thought the delay was for coffe but the cargo was still being loaded created delay.
This should be an easy fight for the union but the company is taking hostages any way they can. And during that time you will be without pay and now a mark on your HR record that the next airline will be looking at.
Know your contract and where you take a stand.
10-12-2017, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Stratocruzr
FYI
And during that time you will be without pay and now a mark on your HR record that the next airline will be looking at.
And during that time you will be without pay and now a mark on your HR record that the next airline will be looking at.
No...just...no..
Other airlines you apply to can only verify your employment dates and what they see on PRIA. Anything else is against the law.
10-13-2017, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Stratocruzr
FYI
Atlas has suspended crew for two months, no pay for asking for coffee. They thought the delay was for coffe but the cargo was still being loaded created delay.
This should be an easy fight for the union but the company is taking hostages any way they can. And during that time you will be without pay and now a mark on your HR record that the next airline will be looking at.
Know your contract and where you take a stand.
Atlas has suspended crew for two months, no pay for asking for coffee. They thought the delay was for coffe but the cargo was still being loaded created delay.
This should be an easy fight for the union but the company is taking hostages any way they can. And during that time you will be without pay and now a mark on your HR record that the next airline will be looking at.
Know your contract and where you take a stand.
10-13-2017, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by snackysmores
No...just...no..
Other airlines you apply to can only verify your employment dates and what they see on PRIA. Anything else is against the law.
Other airlines you apply to can only verify your employment dates and what they see on PRIA. Anything else is against the law.
10-14-2017, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by snackysmores
No...just...no..
Other airlines you apply to can only verify your employment dates and what they see on PRIA. Anything else is against the law.
Other airlines you apply to can only verify your employment dates and what they see on PRIA. Anything else is against the law.
No, it's not against the law. Most employers won't provide those details, primarily to avoid civil suits, but they can. If you've had run-ins with the company that led to any disciplinary action, the company can certainly reveal it, and there is no law to prevent it. In fact, anything in your training record or employee record can be passed along if the employer chooses, and the employer also always has the option of tossing mud by saying they wouldn't hire you again, without explanation. Not against the law, either.
10-15-2017, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
What law?
No, it's not against the law. Most employers won't provide those details, primarily to avoid civil suits, but they can. If you've had run-ins with the company that led to any disciplinary action, the company can certainly reveal it, and there is no law to prevent it. In fact, anything in your training record or employee record can be passed along if the employer chooses, and the employer also always has the option of tossing mud by saying they wouldn't hire you again, without explanation. Not against the law, either.
No, it's not against the law. Most employers won't provide those details, primarily to avoid civil suits, but they can. If you've had run-ins with the company that led to any disciplinary action, the company can certainly reveal it, and there is no law to prevent it. In fact, anything in your training record or employee record can be passed along if the employer chooses, and the employer also always has the option of tossing mud by saying they wouldn't hire you again, without explanation. Not against the law, either.
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