Atlas Air pilot negotiations
05-22-2018, 05:16 AM
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CBA nowhere near imminent
To all those interviewing for Atlas, a new CBA is not around the corner, the interviewers are saying that to get you in the door.
Not even close, so if you're looking at Atlas hoping you'll get in on a new contract, you're probably looking at another 18-24 months, from my assessment of where we stand now.
My suggestion is if you want a new CBA here, wait until we have an AIP, then interview. Before that, coming only helps them delay negotiations.
Not even close, so if you're looking at Atlas hoping you'll get in on a new contract, you're probably looking at another 18-24 months, from my assessment of where we stand now.
My suggestion is if you want a new CBA here, wait until we have an AIP, then interview. Before that, coming only helps them delay negotiations.
05-22-2018, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Groundpointfife
Not even close, so if you're looking at Atlas hoping you'll get in on a new contract, you're probably looking at another 18-24 months, from my assessment of where we stand now.
05-22-2018, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Nate2046
If the company wins in court, which they likely will, it’ll be more like 10 years before we get an agreement we can actually vote on.
05-22-2018, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mukalel
Its amazing atlas is still filling classes.. must be the lure of the 747..
The quality and experience level has gone way down. It is a potential accident waiting to happen.
05-22-2018, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Stratocruzr
Hot off the press. Southern parking 737s. Unable to staff them!
This is only the beginning. 777s predicted to be parked by end of summer. May want to consider somewhere else!
Don’t want to come here to be furloughed later.
This is only the beginning. 777s predicted to be parked by end of summer. May want to consider somewhere else!
Don’t want to come here to be furloughed later.
05-23-2018, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Nate2046
If the company wins in court, which they likely will, it’ll be more like 10 years before we get an agreement we can actually vote on.
FYI, as much as management claims they didn't buy Southern just for the Amalgamation they insisted at the last Scope session on the Amalgamation clause remaining in our Scope language. Which begs to question... If it isn't a way for them to stick it to us then why are they insisting on it staying in the contract? If it's that important to them to keep that language then what do you think the odds are that they just buy some other weak 1224 carrier just before the next Arbitrated contract becomes amendable?
I wouldn't bank on anything ever changing at Atlas.
Southern has NOT parked any aircraft
05-23-2018, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by basti
No aircraft have been parked by Southern, all aircraft are operating for DHL. Staffing is tight, and attrition is alive and well. A new contract is way overdue.
Honestly the best thing that can happen to achieve a new CBA is for those at Southern to actively seek employment elsewhere, same goes for Atlas crews- so that attrition is a good tool. This is about the only thing that management understands, and it's a win win situation. The pilot leaving for one of the big 3, FedEx, UPS etc will earn more over the same course of time, and likely beyond until retirement.
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