Omni Air Questions
06-14-2011, 04:09 AM
#21
Tuk er jerbs!
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Originally Posted by scumby
Aim your sights higher then Omni.
Because Little Timmy, if I could have any job I wanted, I'd be at home counting my millions of dollars earned from being an astronaut/baseball player/fireman/heart surgeon/captain of industry instead of sitting reserve in Shannon.
...sucka!
06-14-2011, 03:44 PM
#24
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Posts: 120
[QUOTE=scumby;1008106]
who ****ed in your cheerios this morning? did hawaiian just out of nowhere have an amazing contract? maybe some people like the type of work omni does, who are you to **** in on their parade? did you work at omni or just other companies that are similar to omni? is omni perfect, hell no. we just got an email from the union about a strike vote, but we have the balls to stick around and try to make this place better for us (the ones that work here now) and for future omni pilots.
instead of talking **** about the company, why dont you just try to support the pilot group?
Originally Posted by stuart716
What carrier do you work for?[/QUOT
After many crappy companies like Omni, I aimed and got Hawaiian.
After many crappy companies like Omni, I aimed and got Hawaiian.
instead of talking **** about the company, why dont you just try to support the pilot group?
06-14-2011, 07:28 PM
#25
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Position: just a co-pilot
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Everyone has a story to tell...and not everyone gives a hoot. We should be proud that this guy has found solace in his work and gets to fly another Boeing 18 times a day on the same 16 hour work day 5 days a week in one of the most expensive living states that exist in the U.S. It doesn't sound too crappy to me. Then again, that's why I left the regionals...
06-14-2011, 07:39 PM
#26
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No, I do not do hiring or interviewing. But I've worked for two different major carriers, and I can tell you hands down that major airline flying is the easiest job I've ever had. Someone holds your hand everywhere you go. At Omni that doesn't happen. You have to step up your game to succeed here and get the job done, as it is far more difficult and challenging than any other flying I've done.
That being said, I love it. Flying for Omni is also more fun than any other job I've had, including the majors, and I really would prefer to work for Omni the rest of my career. I'd just like to see us get a better retirement and insurance package. I'm not holding my breath on that though.
Yes the minimums are low for FOs. And we rarely take people with those low times. When we do take them they can expect to not upgrade for a long time, and they really have to shine to make it through the training program at all. This is hardcore international flying. International flying at the majors is pansy stuff (I can say that because I've done it at two majors, as I mentioned above).
That being said, I love it. Flying for Omni is also more fun than any other job I've had, including the majors, and I really would prefer to work for Omni the rest of my career. I'd just like to see us get a better retirement and insurance package. I'm not holding my breath on that though.
Yes the minimums are low for FOs. And we rarely take people with those low times. When we do take them they can expect to not upgrade for a long time, and they really have to shine to make it through the training program at all. This is hardcore international flying. International flying at the majors is pansy stuff (I can say that because I've done it at two majors, as I mentioned above).
06-14-2011, 08:30 PM
#28
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Mr. OmniPilot, please describe the minimums for those who wish to work here (both FO's and street CA's). You seem to know a lot (saw different post on different threads), so please spread your knowledge around. What major carriers and in what capacity did you work for those "major carriers" (so you can have some credibility here)? I know what I have seen in my tenure here at omni, and what you seem to suggest is that any seat of an omni airplane is not attainable unless one has extensive experience of some kind. I beg to differ with your views.
06-14-2011, 10:22 PM
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oceancrosser,
I don't care about numbers of hours or so forth. My intent is to simply say this: I got hired at my first major legacy carrier with very low flight time and no turbine experience whatsoever, and had no problems whatsoever because they hold your hand through everything, both in training and on the line. It is easy flying. Had I been hired by Omni back then with the experience I had at that time, I would have gotten buried because this is not easy work. It requires a certain level of experience and skill before coming on board if one is to be successful here. No one holds your hand here. It is up to you to keep up and get the job done. It isn't work for a beginner.
How many hours does one need? I don't care because I don't look at it that way. But I do know that when we hired all the experienced ATA people it was a breath of fresh air, because they could step in and do the job and do it well. It was a lot more challenging when that supply of experienced people dried up and we had to hire people without any non-sched international experience. The training curve is much more difficult for those folks. My point regarding the majors is that those same inexperienced people could get hired by AA or United or Delta and get through the training course easily and go onto the line with little difficulty, because the scheduled legacy-type flying is very, very easy by comparison.
By the same token, if a relatively new FO without a lot of experience does a great job and excels both in training and on the line, he will be put up for upgrade fairly quickly. If it seems that he needs more experience first, then they'll have him wait a little longer. Nothing earth shattering here, it is just common sense. I'm not sure why you seem to have taken a bit of an antagonistic tone with me when I'm just offering a bit of information to some people who might want it.
I don't care about numbers of hours or so forth. My intent is to simply say this: I got hired at my first major legacy carrier with very low flight time and no turbine experience whatsoever, and had no problems whatsoever because they hold your hand through everything, both in training and on the line. It is easy flying. Had I been hired by Omni back then with the experience I had at that time, I would have gotten buried because this is not easy work. It requires a certain level of experience and skill before coming on board if one is to be successful here. No one holds your hand here. It is up to you to keep up and get the job done. It isn't work for a beginner.
How many hours does one need? I don't care because I don't look at it that way. But I do know that when we hired all the experienced ATA people it was a breath of fresh air, because they could step in and do the job and do it well. It was a lot more challenging when that supply of experienced people dried up and we had to hire people without any non-sched international experience. The training curve is much more difficult for those folks. My point regarding the majors is that those same inexperienced people could get hired by AA or United or Delta and get through the training course easily and go onto the line with little difficulty, because the scheduled legacy-type flying is very, very easy by comparison.
By the same token, if a relatively new FO without a lot of experience does a great job and excels both in training and on the line, he will be put up for upgrade fairly quickly. If it seems that he needs more experience first, then they'll have him wait a little longer. Nothing earth shattering here, it is just common sense. I'm not sure why you seem to have taken a bit of an antagonistic tone with me when I'm just offering a bit of information to some people who might want it.
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