Any benefits to flying the 767 at Atlas?
02-07-2012, 06:54 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by jetjockee
A big thanks to all that have offered insight to Atlas, its a big help in making the decision.
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Its not necessarily the equipment candidates are trying to figure out, its the earning potential, could I possibly be stuck making 50 hour guarantee (no duty rig), hit with tax liabilities such as travel and hotel(ouch) or will I have options to make duty rig. I for one will be taking a fairly large pay hit today for a better future tomorrow (take two steps backwards to make one step forward)
Its a difficult decision when you are supporting a family, saving for college and retirement,
And your not a spring Chicken anymore?
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Its not necessarily the equipment candidates are trying to figure out, its the earning potential, could I possibly be stuck making 50 hour guarantee (no duty rig), hit with tax liabilities such as travel and hotel(ouch) or will I have options to make duty rig. I for one will be taking a fairly large pay hit today for a better future tomorrow (take two steps backwards to make one step forward)
Its a difficult decision when you are supporting a family, saving for college and retirement,
And your not a spring Chicken anymore?
Most career decisions need to be made with the long term benefits, rather than what you'll get in the short to medium term. I do however understand the realities of paying bills, saving for college, and retirement...
Good luck with your decision...
02-07-2012, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
Wow! Our little light twin is all growed up
I guess that -300 as longer legs than I thought!! Thank goodness for bunkrooms, eh? 
But no bunk room on the 767-300s for our fleet...several lie-flat (think of the EK business-class seat, not one of the US carriers!!) in the back of the aircraft. They are designated Flight Crew (pilots) rest areas...
02-07-2012, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 744driver
But no bunk room on the 767-300s for our fleet...several lie-flat (think of the EK business-class seat, not one of the US carriers!!) in the back of the aircraft. They are designated Flight Crew (pilots) rest areas...
02-07-2012, 10:20 AM
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Damn, I knew I would miss the 400!! It is the small things in life that count, right?
The easiest job at Atlas is the 744 FO without a doubt...dozing for $$$ is a beautiful thing. Remind me, why I gave that up...for two less engines, no bunks, and now I have to ask for permission from the cabin crew to go to the lav.
02-07-2012, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jetjockee
A big thanks to all that have offered insight to Atlas, its a big help in making the decision.
Another View:
Its not necessarily the equipment candidates are trying to figure out, its the earning potential, could I possibly be stuck making 50 hour guarantee (no duty rig), hit with tax liabilities such as travel and hotel(ouch) or will I have options to make duty rig. I for one will be taking a fairly large pay hit today for a better future tomorrow (take two steps backwards to make one step forward)
Its a difficult decision when you are supporting a family, saving for college and retirement,
And your not a spring Chicken anymore?
Another View:
Its not necessarily the equipment candidates are trying to figure out, its the earning potential, could I possibly be stuck making 50 hour guarantee (no duty rig), hit with tax liabilities such as travel and hotel(ouch) or will I have options to make duty rig. I for one will be taking a fairly large pay hit today for a better future tomorrow (take two steps backwards to make one step forward)
Its a difficult decision when you are supporting a family, saving for college and retirement,
And your not a spring Chicken anymore?
I don't regret my decision yet.
A few notes:
As you know, training is ~2 mos, and say you're on training pay for 4 (redonkulous, but it is what it is), that's only 8 mos on 50 hrs. Of the dozen or so FNGs I know, 0 made 50 hr mos once they got online. If the company gets smart and starts budgeting, that means you'll be out only 10 days a month. You can't even position and pick up a plane in that time. 13 days out, you're at 62 hours. 17 days out and you're at ~77 hrs (knock a day off of rig due to not starting and ending at 00Z the first and last day).
The BS tax liabilities: Only if you touch your base and get hotels. However this battle is being taken on right now.
The 401k options are good, and my Financial Planner is impressed with the array of selections.
Of course, if you're not in a position to fit the budget first year, that is a huge factor as well.
Good luck.
02-07-2012, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 744driver
Remind me, why I gave that up...for two less engines, no bunks, and now I have to ask for permission from the cabin crew to go to the lav.
02-08-2012, 12:56 PM
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Personally, I didn't have a favorite team this year, but thought it was a darn good game to watch...
From Atlas:
"Atlas Air, whose airline call sign is "Giant," carried more than 700 New York Giants fans round trip from Newark, New Jersey to Indianapolis, Indiana over the weekend to cheer on "Big Blue's" victory over the New England Patriots at Super Bowl XLVI. Atlas operated two of its seven passenger aircraft, a Boeing 747-400 (GT8442) and a Boeing 767-300ER (GT8465) for the charter operator, Worldwide Charters International, Inc. By all estimations, the trip was a success—including the final score of 21-17.
"We're thrilled that the Giants won and that we were able to carry their most loyal fans to and from the Super Bowl. Our entire team – Sales, Operations, Legal and others worked very hard to make this a successful mission," said John Dietrich, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer.
Richard Broekman, Senior Director of Commercial Development and Revenue Management, agreed. "It's a testimony to what Atlas Air is capable of on the passenger side," he said. "Just like the Giants, it takes an excellent team to win!"
Emily Duncan of Worldwide Charters International, Inc., who was the charter broker, said, "Our client gave me glowing reports of the service and the experience. It's the best review and feedback I've had on a charter with them."
"It was wonderful to have the fans as our guests," said James Parascandola, Senior Director, Ground Support Services. Added David Burgett, Director of Inflight Services, "We couldn't help but get caught up in the excitement of our guests. Their enthusiasm was so contagious—and it was a thrill to have them onboard!"
The Super Bowl is the National Football League's biggest night of the year, and each year is among the most watched television programs in the United States."
From Atlas:
"Atlas Air, whose airline call sign is "Giant," carried more than 700 New York Giants fans round trip from Newark, New Jersey to Indianapolis, Indiana over the weekend to cheer on "Big Blue's" victory over the New England Patriots at Super Bowl XLVI. Atlas operated two of its seven passenger aircraft, a Boeing 747-400 (GT8442) and a Boeing 767-300ER (GT8465) for the charter operator, Worldwide Charters International, Inc. By all estimations, the trip was a success—including the final score of 21-17.
"We're thrilled that the Giants won and that we were able to carry their most loyal fans to and from the Super Bowl. Our entire team – Sales, Operations, Legal and others worked very hard to make this a successful mission," said John Dietrich, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer.
Richard Broekman, Senior Director of Commercial Development and Revenue Management, agreed. "It's a testimony to what Atlas Air is capable of on the passenger side," he said. "Just like the Giants, it takes an excellent team to win!"
Emily Duncan of Worldwide Charters International, Inc., who was the charter broker, said, "Our client gave me glowing reports of the service and the experience. It's the best review and feedback I've had on a charter with them."
"It was wonderful to have the fans as our guests," said James Parascandola, Senior Director, Ground Support Services. Added David Burgett, Director of Inflight Services, "We couldn't help but get caught up in the excitement of our guests. Their enthusiasm was so contagious—and it was a thrill to have them onboard!"
The Super Bowl is the National Football League's biggest night of the year, and each year is among the most watched television programs in the United States."
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