Second Thoughts
07-29-2021, 02:34 PM
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Second Thoughts
I wonder if United is having second thoughts about pulling flying and aircraft from XJT and giving it to C5…. If things had gone the other way, they would have a fully staffed regional that could have shrunk to meet the reduction in flying and quickly ramped back up when demand returned (right now).
By all accounts, every part of C5 is broken (recruiting, training, scheduling, IT, contract, etc). And now that other places are hiring in numbers and offering better pay and real contracts with real work rules, how does C5 expect to attract and retain a quality work force? Yeah, just a few months ago they were the only choice. But with even 2 minutes of research these days people with choices will eliminate them from consideration!
By all accounts, every part of C5 is broken (recruiting, training, scheduling, IT, contract, etc). And now that other places are hiring in numbers and offering better pay and real contracts with real work rules, how does C5 expect to attract and retain a quality work force? Yeah, just a few months ago they were the only choice. But with even 2 minutes of research these days people with choices will eliminate them from consideration!
07-30-2021, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BRJPilot
I wonder if United is having second thoughts about pulling flying and aircraft from XJT and giving it to C5…. If things had gone the other way, they would have a fully staffed regional that could have shrunk to meet the reduction in flying and quickly ramped back up when demand returned (right now).
By all accounts, every part of C5 is broken (recruiting, training, scheduling, IT, contract, etc). And now that other places are hiring in numbers and offering better pay and real contracts with real work rules, how does C5 expect to attract and retain a quality work force? Yeah, just a few months ago they were the only choice. But with even 2 minutes of research these days people with choices will eliminate them from consideration!
By all accounts, every part of C5 is broken (recruiting, training, scheduling, IT, contract, etc). And now that other places are hiring in numbers and offering better pay and real contracts with real work rules, how does C5 expect to attract and retain a quality work force? Yeah, just a few months ago they were the only choice. But with even 2 minutes of research these days people with choices will eliminate them from consideration!
07-30-2021, 12:15 PM
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The company needs to start having management (including upper management) put up or leave. A few high profile departures for failure to get it done might help motivate the management level. Worker bees can only work so hard before they can no longer make up for deficiencies by management.
07-30-2021, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BRJPilot
I wonder if United is having second thoughts about pulling flying and aircraft from XJT and giving it to C5….
07-31-2021, 02:45 PM
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Apparently United is starting to figure this out. They just pulled all of the Mexico flying from C5 and gave it to another UAX carrier. It’s got to be hard to staff an airline for growth when you have the lowest pay and worst work rules/contract in the industry!
08-01-2021, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CASApilot
If you shrank ExpressJet you would of ended up with the world's most expensive to operate regional at a time when cost was everything. All the things that make C5 bad now can be fixed now that costs are getting less critical.
stuff was broken pre-Covid and nothing was done then.
08-01-2021, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BRJPilot
Apparently United is starting to figure this out. They just pulled all of the Mexico flying from C5 and gave it to another UAX carrier. It’s got to be hard to staff an airline for growth when you have the lowest pay and worst work rules/contract in the industry!
08-01-2021, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
Due to performance or putting larger equipment on the route?
Unfortunately they can’t put larger equipment on some of those routes due to aircraft capabilities. Although, each day SkyWest is closer and closer to achieving FAA approval for 175 flying into places like Aspen (currently working on FADEC Go-Around procedures approval).
Two issues, scope and 175 performance approvals (pending, sounds like it’s just a matter of time) will keep the 145 flying. The 200 does not have the climb out capabilities of a 145.
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08-01-2021, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
Due to performance or putting larger equipment on the route?
We are seeing a lot more Mexico flying on 319’s that were stations served only by 145’s. Many of these stations are natural progression 145/175/319. Or instead of 6 145’s/day we send 3/4 319’s. All good news for UA pilots and passengers.
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