utedrummer

OK, so before I started with RAH I went out and got my ATP written (to increase my chances of getting a job and to be ready for an upgrade). I had planned on a 1.5 year upgrade at RAH at the time of hire (I know you written doesnt really "expire" while working for an airline). However, now that Im furloughed, looking at possible 3+ year upgrade at RAH (should I decide to return) I am concerned about its expiration. Therefore, I am looking into getting my ATP on my own (damn I thought I was done paying for training after I got my commercial, there goes another part of the dream...) Anyway, anyone have suggestions on the best place to get it done? I am concerned about an accelerated course in a seminole simply because my scan in steam gauges suuucks these days (been in the E175, "lazy pilot maker") and I dont think 4.5 hours to checkride prep is gonna cut it. Thoughts? Suggestions??

de727ups

In spite of your hesitation on a quickie course, I'd still look to AllATP's. They know how to get you through. If you need more time, you'll just have to pay for it. Maybe it would be smart to get steam gage current in an old ground trainer and then in a cheaper 172 before you try to master the ATP quickie course.

JetPipeOverht

I'm fairly certain if you retain a seniority # at an airline, if that airline should hire you back your ATP written would still remain valid...

stoki

If you let the ATP written lapse, yea it sucks because its a big pain, and you would have to do it again. But if you go do the ATP now on your own, it will probably cost you at least 2,500$ if not more. While to take the written it will be.... another what... 100$ I think they are? ... with a little bit of studying. If your going to stick this out and wait for RAH to call you back, and plan on upgrading there and don't need the ATP till then, I personally think this is a no-brainer. I say don't waste your money if you don't have too. I would rather study for it all over again then spend 2,500$ that you don't have to spend.

JetPipeOverht

I was wrong:
Written

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If you take a written, let it expire, and change companies, it is no longer valid. That is what every person who has come here has said, and we have done about 75 since I started. No it doesn't have to be the same carrier, but you must be employed by a 121 carrier without any gaps in your employment. If you quit the company, and don't get hired until sometime later, than your written is no longer valid.

This is a topic in the ' training ' portion of APC

utedrummer

? Is it considered a "gap" if you take it before you get a 121 job? I suppose furlough is a gap then. Does that gap apply while the written is valid or does the gap only apply after the expiration?? really, that didnt give any kind of answer.

TXTECHKA

Multi engine training at Arlington airport in Dallas. 1300 bucks flat rate. I did my Multi, mei, and ATP there. It's good. Old airplanes but they make it happen. It was worth it cause I got a corporate pic king air job at home shortly after. I quite rah for that job. I tried to take a voluntary but they wouldn't go for it.

utedrummer

Is that the company name?

TXTECHKA

yeah. Not real creative but they get the job done. They have old beech travelairs and it takes like 3 or 4 days

OlyRob

Just curious, had you put your two years in at RAH? Did they ever mention the training contract?