ThePoorPilot

I agree 100%!


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cyuhhh

Are you at C5 currently? Is the QOL that good? Not being facetious, looking for a pirep.

ThePoorPilot

I’m not. Have friends there and they really enjoy it. Wel..better than they thought they would at a regional


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tayw6

Good to know. I may be starting at C5 soon, waiting on a class date at another regional in the meantime. My biggest fear is starting here barely getting any time and then C5 closes its doors relatively soon due to it being a 50 seater operation and what not…

Brickyards

Me too. But I’m young, 23 with no wife or kids. If this happens before I leave it shouldn’t be hard to get on elsewhere. I’ve heard ULCCs calling people not even off OE yet….. I think commutair still has a few years left

dead meat

C5 is moving at full speed to get the 175 on their certificate. I think once that happens, United will give them 175's and they will slowly retire the 145. I don't foresee C5 being put out to pasture as long as they can staff a minimum of 40-50 planes. I have no idea how many planes they are currently flying or how many active pilots they have, just estimating the numbers they would need to maintain to remain viable.

Hedley

Any idea where the 175’s will come from? It is my understanding that the bulk of them operating under the United brand are not owned by United, but by various regionals and therefore can’t be shuffled about. Any idea how many 175’s UAL actually owns, and where they’re currently flying? What business advantage would shifting equipment from the existing contractors to another company like C5 serve? UAX is going to shrink down to the existing number of 175’s and how ever many 550’s they want or can staff. TSA, ExpressJet, and Air Wisconsin were all let go. Where is the fiscal incentive to the corporate bean counters to shift desirable aircraft from current operators to those who only operate aircraft that are slated for retirement? The new FAA weights don’t help the 50 seat cause when they often can’t even take 50 passengers. I’m not trying to stir the pot, but genuinely asking from the perspective of those in power who will make these types of decisions. Why shuffle assets and keep the current number of regionals when they can retire undesirable aircraft and simply continue to do business with those already operating the 175’s?

pangolin

There’s 20 that UA owns that were taken from mesa now off the CPA and could go go Commuteair in a hot minute.

Hedley

20 could be a start, but I doubt that it would be enough to be sustainable without additional aircraft. I’d still like to know how many 175’s United actually owns. Also, if those aircraft are being successfully operated by another company, why move them? All regionals are having significant problems with attrition. The new FAA weights make the single class 50 seaters and the 550 even more unattractive due to their weight restrictions. Considering these limitations and multiple announcements from UAL about the future of the UAX fleet, wouldn’t consolidation reduce the staffing problems more so than trying to maintain the current number of regional partners with a shrinking fleet? When the 200’s are finally phased out, SkyWest will just be a much smaller customer for UAL. When the 145’s are phased out, what business reasons would UAL have for shifting equipment to CommutAir rather than handle them like they did ExpressJet and Air Wisconsin?

Str8 Cash Homie

“Successfully operated”? Lol what? The next time you’re in IAH pick your head up and take a look at all the 175’s parked. Those are all “successfully operated” by Mesa.