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Old 12-02-2017 | 03:31 PM
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Old 12-02-2017 | 04:27 PM
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Old 12-02-2017 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorpr
The CPP is slightly better at C5 over XJT and Whisky bc they require 2000 PIC before eligible to get into the pool to go.
I believe it's 3000 at XJT OR 2000 PIC at XJT.

Which means that the majority of the FO's at XJT are eligible, as a WAG about 1000 of the 1300-ish pilots RIGHT NOW probably have it. With UAL's low hiring numbers for 2017 more and more of those that likely don't have the 3000 at XJT will before their number even comes up.

With some that don't have XJT 2000 PIC going end of Summer/Fall 2018 if the hiring projection sticks.

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Old 12-02-2017 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
I believe it's 3000 at XJT OR 2000 PIC at XJT.

Which means that the majority of the FO's at XJT are eligible, as a WAG about 1000 of the 1300-ish pilots RIGHT NOW probably have it. With UAL's low hiring numbers for 2017 more and more of those that likely don't have the 3000 at XJT will before their number even comes up.

With some that don't have XJT 2000 PIC going end of Summer/Fall 2018 if the hiring projection sticks.
Thanks for the info...this guy is looking to start at a CPP carrier so your post doesn’t really help him. Sure, you can go to any of the CPP carriers and get your 3000 company time, or come to C5 which is still growing, upgrade and get your 1000 probably before you hit the 3000.
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Old 12-02-2017 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorpr
Thanks for the info...this guy is looking to start at a CPP carrier so your post doesn’t really help him.
Ummmmm...allllll righty then

I was just adding and additional FACT that it's not just the PIC that's required if going the XJT route

Nothing is ever certain, and jacburn outlined the variable factor best;

Originally Posted by jacburn
The trick right now is getting the 1000 PIC time. Upgrade time at C5 is currently over one year and climbing on the ERJ. Management seems to think that time will decline again, but that will only happen if they can find people to come in the door to fill the bottom of the list with new incentives or better quality of life in the contract.
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Old 12-02-2017 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Ummmmm...allllll righty then

I was just adding and additional FACT that it's not just the PIC that's required if going the XJT route

Nothing is ever certain, and jacburn outlined the variable factor best;
We have the same thing for non PIC time at C5 as the 3000 hours.

I was hired at XJT in 2007 and I will still be at UA through the CPP faster at C5 than if I would have stayed at XJT.

If you guys at XJT let all the ASA guys into the CPP as expected, the bottom of the CPP list will never see a position at UA.

If you really want to compare the two airlines, C5 will send over a greater percentage of its pilots each year.
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Old 12-02-2017 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jacburn
I was hired at XJT in 2007 and I will still be at UA through the CPP faster at C5 than if I would have stayed at XJT.
Glad it worked out for you since you were so miserable at XJT and borderline a pain in the rectum to fly with.

If you guys at XJT.....
Not my problem. But it is for my friends that are waiting on it pan out.

If you really want to compare the two airlines, C5 will send over a greater percentage of its pilots each year.
Awesome for C5.
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Old 12-03-2017 | 08:39 AM
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Thank you for all of the helpful information. A few more questions if you guys don’t mind.

I know everyone’s situation is different, but about how much of the sign on bonus do you actually get after taxes?

What is the availability for extra time and is there a possibility for premium pay?

How much is the monthly payment for family insurance?

How does IAD and EWR compare in seniority?

Thanks again in advance.
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Old 12-03-2017 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by marshal
Thank you for all of the helpful information. A few more questions if you guys don’t mind.

I know everyone’s situation is different, but about how much of the sign on bonus do you actually get after taxes? They cut you a check the week before Indoc with whatever you qualified for, no taxes taken out, on you to pay them the following tax year

What is the availability for extra time and is there a possibility for premium pay? There is both open time and once a week the company posts what days they’re offering 150, 200, or 300% for pick ups

How much is the monthly payment for family insurance? Medical, dental, vision?

How does IAD and EWR compare in seniority? EWR is junior for both seats

Thanks again in advance.
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Old 12-03-2017 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by aviatorpr
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Thanks. Yes to all three type of insurance.
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