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Which means that the majority of the FO's at XJT are eligible, as a WAG about 1000 of the 1300-ish pilots RIGHT NOW probably have it. With UAL's low hiring numbers for 2017 more and more of those that likely don't have the 3000 at XJT will before their number even comes up.
With some that don't have XJT 2000 PIC going end of Summer/Fall 2018 if the hiring projection sticks.
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I believe it's 3000 at XJT OR 2000 PIC at XJT.
Which means that the majority of the FO's at XJT are eligible, as a WAG about 1000 of the 1300-ish pilots RIGHT NOW probably have it. With UAL's low hiring numbers for 2017 more and more of those that likely don't have the 3000 at XJT will before their number even comes up.
With some that don't have XJT 2000 PIC going end of Summer/Fall 2018 if the hiring projection sticks.
Which means that the majority of the FO's at XJT are eligible, as a WAG about 1000 of the 1300-ish pilots RIGHT NOW probably have it. With UAL's low hiring numbers for 2017 more and more of those that likely don't have the 3000 at XJT will before their number even comes up.
With some that don't have XJT 2000 PIC going end of Summer/Fall 2018 if the hiring projection sticks.
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I was just adding and additional FACT that it's not just the PIC that's required if going the XJT route

Nothing is ever certain, and jacburn outlined the variable factor best;
The trick right now is getting the 1000 PIC time. Upgrade time at C5 is currently over one year and climbing on the ERJ. Management seems to think that time will decline again, but that will only happen if they can find people to come in the door to fill the bottom of the list with new incentives or better quality of life in the contract.
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I was hired at XJT in 2007 and I will still be at UA through the CPP faster at C5 than if I would have stayed at XJT.
If you guys at XJT let all the ASA guys into the CPP as expected, the bottom of the CPP list will never see a position at UA.
If you really want to compare the two airlines, C5 will send over a greater percentage of its pilots each year.
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If you guys at XJT.....
If you really want to compare the two airlines, C5 will send over a greater percentage of its pilots each year.
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Thank you for all of the helpful information. A few more questions if you guys don’t mind.
I know everyone’s situation is different, but about how much of the sign on bonus do you actually get after taxes?
What is the availability for extra time and is there a possibility for premium pay?
How much is the monthly payment for family insurance?
How does IAD and EWR compare in seniority?
Thanks again in advance.
I know everyone’s situation is different, but about how much of the sign on bonus do you actually get after taxes?
What is the availability for extra time and is there a possibility for premium pay?
How much is the monthly payment for family insurance?
How does IAD and EWR compare in seniority?
Thanks again in advance.
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Thank you for all of the helpful information. A few more questions if you guys don’t mind.
I know everyone’s situation is different, but about how much of the sign on bonus do you actually get after taxes? They cut you a check the week before Indoc with whatever you qualified for, no taxes taken out, on you to pay them the following tax year
What is the availability for extra time and is there a possibility for premium pay? There is both open time and once a week the company posts what days they’re offering 150, 200, or 300% for pick ups
How much is the monthly payment for family insurance? Medical, dental, vision?
How does IAD and EWR compare in seniority? EWR is junior for both seats
Thanks again in advance.
I know everyone’s situation is different, but about how much of the sign on bonus do you actually get after taxes? They cut you a check the week before Indoc with whatever you qualified for, no taxes taken out, on you to pay them the following tax year
What is the availability for extra time and is there a possibility for premium pay? There is both open time and once a week the company posts what days they’re offering 150, 200, or 300% for pick ups
How much is the monthly payment for family insurance? Medical, dental, vision?
How does IAD and EWR compare in seniority? EWR is junior for both seats
Thanks again in advance.
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