hawk21

Tell that to my friends trying to get hired and being told there's no classes going on.

N200NN

Classes are starting back up in June for both upgrades(up to 16/month) and new hire FOs. Probably why a recruiter contacted the OP regarding summer classes.

TillerTemptress

When was that? There are new hire classes starting now and more coming. They're asking us for pilot referrals. So, okay.

All the doom and gloom about Compass is pretty unwarranted. If you want a west coast base with the option to upgrade on the west coast in probably ~ 2 years, this place is still pretty good. Compare the contracts and we do pretty OK especially with only productive 175 legs. Look at west coast upgrade time at Skywest and it's years years years, tell me what the most jr E175 LAX CA is at Skywest... it ain't anywhere close to 2 years. Also, it's nice to have a union here, we are ALPA represented.

WesternSkies

3. It's literally at the next closest possible and that is...three years.

What is a productive 175 leg?

I'd still choose Compass.

TheFly

It's true, you will have a slightly shorter wait to get LAX or SEA with Compass. However, company reputation and management are far better than anything in the GoJet family. ALPA or any union that represents a major and a regional airline is a one sided deal with little to no benefit on the regional side. Ask Mesa, Republic, etc. if Comapss doesn't own any of the planes they operate, then that would be a no-brained to me. I'd say SkyWest for the long run.

TillerTemptress

The union here has saved plenty of jobs, fought contract disputes for us, kept the company in check. Not to mention all the safety benefits ALPA national provides and things like KCM. If you meet with the company for disciplinary action a rep is there to protect you.. hardly a "one sided deal"

TillerTemptress

Okay, well when you run your pay calculation, it's gonna be a lot higher year 2 until year 3 at Skywest, if it even holds at 3 years there for west coast, consider all the west coast guys they've hired in the past 3 years. I know plenty in DTW/MSP etc just waiting to get back west to the airplane they want. What was the jr DOH? I know a 3 year Skywest LAX FO that tells me he's nowhere close, so I'm surprised to hear that it's 3 years.

WesternSkies

March 2014 hire.

veewan

Fought contract disputes? So have they gotten a real time reserve grid in place? How about long and short overnight hotels per the contract (15 hours or longer)? IOCC? That's hardly keeping the company in check. I'm sure the list is longer than that.

What safety benefits does ALPA provide that SkyWest does not have? They have AQP, ASAP, HIMS, FOQA.

On the subject of KCM, SkyWest gets to participate. More importantly it's paid for by the company. Great Lakes does not participate in KCM or to my knowledge still does not (they definitely did not previously​), Air Wisconsin left KCM temporarily when the company told the pilots it was too expensive. Mesa pilots- represented by ALPA, pay for their own KCM as a deduction each pay check.

I think what the other poster was suggesting is, that it's better to work without a union, at a company that actually follows through on what they've agreed to. Instead of at a company where you grieve it and fly and that's considered "fighting" contract disputes.

middies10

I think you need to read our contract, especially regarding hotels. Things aren't fought and solved overnight. All this issues you have presented have come up within the last 5 months.

If you are not happy with the way the union is working why not get involved? With our attrition to the majors its tough to maintain an MEC.