New Hires after IOE
#1
New Hires after IOE
Hey guys I got my LOE next week and was wondering what you line captains see new FO's screw up on often out on the line and why! I was hoping to get some feedback and see what most of us newbs struggle with on the transition to actual line flying. Thanks and cannot wait to be out there flying the actual plane instead of the SIM.
#2
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 856
If you're gonna use the Velcro bag strap, release it before you leave the airplane.
Leave the seat in a suitable height and distance. Move the rudder pedals about halfway back.
Clean your trash, especially crumbs in the little phone holder thing.
As for flying, try out FPA and VS and notice the difference from FLCH. A 290 knot FLCH is gonna make a scared captain.
Leave the seat in a suitable height and distance. Move the rudder pedals about halfway back.
Clean your trash, especially crumbs in the little phone holder thing.
As for flying, try out FPA and VS and notice the difference from FLCH. A 290 knot FLCH is gonna make a scared captain.
#3
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Haha fun question
1. Never say 'disregard' when the VTA chimes on a vnav climb and you're in green flch. I will throw biscoff cookies at you
2. Don't bug FAs for in flight meals 30 minutes into the flight or they will roll their eyes and so will I
3. Don't land better than me on day 1 or I will start quizzing you on memory items and limitations while you're trying to hand fly on your next approach.
4. Dont do 10 minute 'briefs' on the IRNMN into lax. Oh and it's called the (irna-mirna), if you make the approach brief a state of the union address, I will debrief you starting with your takeoff, especially if you have a commute to catch
I'll think of more stuff.
Dude main thing, show up humble ready to learn and have fun
1. Never say 'disregard' when the VTA chimes on a vnav climb and you're in green flch. I will throw biscoff cookies at you
2. Don't bug FAs for in flight meals 30 minutes into the flight or they will roll their eyes and so will I
3. Don't land better than me on day 1 or I will start quizzing you on memory items and limitations while you're trying to hand fly on your next approach.
4. Dont do 10 minute 'briefs' on the IRNMN into lax. Oh and it's called the (irna-mirna), if you make the approach brief a state of the union address, I will debrief you starting with your takeoff, especially if you have a commute to catch
I'll think of more stuff.
Dude main thing, show up humble ready to learn and have fun
#4
Haha fun question
1. Never say 'disregard' when the VTA chimes on a vnav climb and you're in green flch. I will throw biscoff cookies at you
2. Don't bug FAs for in flight meals 30 minutes into the flight or they will roll their eyes and so will I
3. Don't land better than me on day 1 or I will start quizzing you on memory items and limitations while you're trying to hand fly on your next approach.
4. Dont do 10 minute 'briefs' on the IRNMN into lax. Oh and it's called the (irna-mirna), if you make the approach brief a state of the union address, I will debrief you starting with your takeoff, especially if you have a commute to catch
I'll think of more stuff.
Dude main thing, show up humble ready to learn and have fun
1. Never say 'disregard' when the VTA chimes on a vnav climb and you're in green flch. I will throw biscoff cookies at you
2. Don't bug FAs for in flight meals 30 minutes into the flight or they will roll their eyes and so will I
3. Don't land better than me on day 1 or I will start quizzing you on memory items and limitations while you're trying to hand fly on your next approach.
4. Dont do 10 minute 'briefs' on the IRNMN into lax. Oh and it's called the (irna-mirna), if you make the approach brief a state of the union address, I will debrief you starting with your takeoff, especially if you have a commute to catch
I'll think of more stuff.
Dude main thing, show up humble ready to learn and have fun
#5
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#6
Trust me when I get about 6 critical pay emails a day I want to be out there. I've been able to get through training quicker than others it seems, but I've been waiting two weeks for my LOFT and LOE so I hope that part gets better so we get more FO's out on the line to help out.
#8
Everything that has been said is great advise but really, my .02...
1. Learn when FLCH and FPA/VS is appropriate. The vertical planning part of the PFD is a great tool.
2. Slow down early, don't be afraid to use boards. Eventually you will get comfortable with the airplane and keep it faster and faster.
3. Ask your CA if he/she has any tips or things you could be doing better. I always told them I was new and would appreciate any advise. There are a hundred ways to fly this plane, take what you like and disregard what you don't.
4. If you ever feel behind the plane or lose situational awareness, don't wait until you are filing an ASAP. Speak up.
5. Ask plenty of questions. If you are PM and see the CA start pushing buttons, ask what he/she is doing.
6. If you use the side bag strap, be courteous and undo it.
7. Never remove the empty cup in the cup holder. It's there for a reason.
8. Always leave the cockpit clean and ready for the next person.
1. Learn when FLCH and FPA/VS is appropriate. The vertical planning part of the PFD is a great tool.
2. Slow down early, don't be afraid to use boards. Eventually you will get comfortable with the airplane and keep it faster and faster.
3. Ask your CA if he/she has any tips or things you could be doing better. I always told them I was new and would appreciate any advise. There are a hundred ways to fly this plane, take what you like and disregard what you don't.
4. If you ever feel behind the plane or lose situational awareness, don't wait until you are filing an ASAP. Speak up.
5. Ask plenty of questions. If you are PM and see the CA start pushing buttons, ask what he/she is doing.
6. If you use the side bag strap, be courteous and undo it.
7. Never remove the empty cup in the cup holder. It's there for a reason.
8. Always leave the cockpit clean and ready for the next person.
#9
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 443
Haha fun question
1. Never say 'disregard' when the VTA chimes on a vnav climb and you're in green flch. I will throw biscoff cookies at you
2. Don't bug FAs for in flight meals 30 minutes into the flight or they will roll their eyes and so will I
3. Don't land better than me on day 1 or I will start quizzing you on memory items and limitations while you're trying to hand fly on your next approach.
4. Dont do 10 minute 'briefs' on the IRNMN into lax. Oh and it's called the (irna-mirna), if you make the approach brief a state of the union address, I will debrief you starting with your takeoff, especially if you have a commute to catch
I'll think of more stuff.
Dude main thing, show up humble ready to learn and have fun
1. Never say 'disregard' when the VTA chimes on a vnav climb and you're in green flch. I will throw biscoff cookies at you
2. Don't bug FAs for in flight meals 30 minutes into the flight or they will roll their eyes and so will I
3. Don't land better than me on day 1 or I will start quizzing you on memory items and limitations while you're trying to hand fly on your next approach.
4. Dont do 10 minute 'briefs' on the IRNMN into lax. Oh and it's called the (irna-mirna), if you make the approach brief a state of the union address, I will debrief you starting with your takeoff, especially if you have a commute to catch
I'll think of more stuff.
Dude main thing, show up humble ready to learn and have fun
If the FO greases it on during their first landing of a multiple day trip, I take this as the gauntlet being thrown down and show them what a REAL greaser is because how will they ever respect my authoritay if they get the impression they're a better pilot than me?
In all seriousness, though, attitude is everything. Give me a pilot who has a great attitude but makes me wonder how they passed their LOE long before you give me Chuck Yeager with a chip on his shoulder. I've absolutely loved flying with all the new FOs I've worked with. You guys (and gals) are the real MVP.
#10
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Joined APC: Oct 2016
Position: furloughed
Posts: 429
Everything that has been said is great advise but really, my .02...
1. Learn when FLCH and FPA/VS is appropriate. The vertical planning part of the PFD is a great tool.
2. Slow down early, don't be afraid to use boards. Eventually you will get comfortable with the airplane and keep it faster and faster.
3. Ask your CA if he/she has any tips or things you could be doing better. I always told them I was new and would appreciate any advise. There are a hundred ways to fly this plane, take what you like and disregard what you don't.
4. If you ever feel behind the plane or lose situational awareness, don't wait until you are filing an ASAP. Speak up.
5. Ask plenty of questions. If you are PM and see the CA start pushing buttons, ask what he/she is doing.
6. If you use the side bag strap, be courteous and undo it.
7. Never remove the empty cup in the cup holder. It's there for a reason.
8. Always leave the cockpit clean and ready for the next person.
1. Learn when FLCH and FPA/VS is appropriate. The vertical planning part of the PFD is a great tool.
2. Slow down early, don't be afraid to use boards. Eventually you will get comfortable with the airplane and keep it faster and faster.
3. Ask your CA if he/she has any tips or things you could be doing better. I always told them I was new and would appreciate any advise. There are a hundred ways to fly this plane, take what you like and disregard what you don't.
4. If you ever feel behind the plane or lose situational awareness, don't wait until you are filing an ASAP. Speak up.
5. Ask plenty of questions. If you are PM and see the CA start pushing buttons, ask what he/she is doing.
6. If you use the side bag strap, be courteous and undo it.
7. Never remove the empty cup in the cup holder. It's there for a reason.
8. Always leave the cockpit clean and ready for the next person.
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