Compass Updates 2: Revenge of the Sit
#1785
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 531
Regarding the flow, it’s 2-4 per month. Currently 2 per month. The first guys have early June flow dates and will be contacted shortly
As part of this agreement, F9 will NOT hire cpz pilots unless it’s flow.
So if you ask me, this is worse than having zero flow. Completely blocks us from going to that company unless it’s within a tiny And distant window of time.
As part of this agreement, F9 will NOT hire cpz pilots unless it’s flow.
So if you ask me, this is worse than having zero flow. Completely blocks us from going to that company unless it’s within a tiny And distant window of time.
#1786
New Hire
Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 2
This sounds like the exact same agreement that TSA got last year, when nobody was even applying to Frontier. It seems more like a management agreement to stop FO attrition at TSA and now Compass. If that's the case, sorry, but Frontier won't be the ticket out of TSH, except for a senior two per month.
#1787
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,184
Regarding the flow, it’s 2-4 per month. Currently 2 per month. The first guys have early June flow dates and will be contacted shortly
As part of this agreement, F9 will NOT hire cpz pilots unless it’s flow.
So if you ask me, this is worse than having zero flow. Completely blocks us from going to that company unless it’s within a tiny And distant window of time.
As part of this agreement, F9 will NOT hire cpz pilots unless it’s flow.
So if you ask me, this is worse than having zero flow. Completely blocks us from going to that company unless it’s within a tiny And distant window of time.
How do you know it’s per month and not per class? The black and white print does not indicate this. Is there other writing about this that is not out there?
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#1788
I fail to see a downside to this.
We are currently losing about 20 a month to attrition, out of a pilot population of maybe 675. That’s about three percent per month. That’s 36% per year. And the mandatory retirements at the majors haven’t even peaked yet.
Increase that by 2 pilots a month who wouldn’t have otherwise left and we are up to 3.3% per month or almost 40% per year.
Since even at the maximum legal rate of 1000 hours a year - blocking 83.3 hours a month - it will take you two full years to get the hours you need to upgrade and then the “magic” 1000 hrs of TPIC, and it’s going to take everyone some time to get through initial training, it doesn’t seem possible to do just a heck of a lot better - on the average - than that.
And I’m not saying just not likely, but not really possible.
And while yeah sure, not everyone leaving is necessarily going to their first choice of places to go, neither have they precisely wasted their time at Compass either. They’ve gotten in, gotten a type rating, gotten experience that improved their resume’ and left for someplace better, without spending six months on reserve not flying sitting in a crash pad someplace they didn’t want to be. And I reiterate; the mandatory retirements at the majors haven’t even peaked yet.
What more was anyone realistically expecting from a regional? Seriously?
If you want to actually spend a career at a regional, Republic and Skywest would probably be better bets. Compass is more of a get in and get experience and move on sort of place.
We are currently losing about 20 a month to attrition, out of a pilot population of maybe 675. That’s about three percent per month. That’s 36% per year. And the mandatory retirements at the majors haven’t even peaked yet.
Increase that by 2 pilots a month who wouldn’t have otherwise left and we are up to 3.3% per month or almost 40% per year.
Since even at the maximum legal rate of 1000 hours a year - blocking 83.3 hours a month - it will take you two full years to get the hours you need to upgrade and then the “magic” 1000 hrs of TPIC, and it’s going to take everyone some time to get through initial training, it doesn’t seem possible to do just a heck of a lot better - on the average - than that.
And I’m not saying just not likely, but not really possible.
And while yeah sure, not everyone leaving is necessarily going to their first choice of places to go, neither have they precisely wasted their time at Compass either. They’ve gotten in, gotten a type rating, gotten experience that improved their resume’ and left for someplace better, without spending six months on reserve not flying sitting in a crash pad someplace they didn’t want to be. And I reiterate; the mandatory retirements at the majors haven’t even peaked yet.
What more was anyone realistically expecting from a regional? Seriously?
If you want to actually spend a career at a regional, Republic and Skywest would probably be better bets. Compass is more of a get in and get experience and move on sort of place.
#1789
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 443
I fail to see a downside to this.
We are currently losing about 20 a month to attrition, out of a pilot population of maybe 675. That’s about three percent per month. That’s 36% per year. And the mandatory retirements at the majors haven’t even peaked yet.
Increase that by 2 pilots a month who wouldn’t have otherwise left and we are up to 3.3% per month or almost 40% per year.
Since even at the maximum legal rate of 1000 hours a year - blocking 83.3 hours a month - it will take you two full years to get the hours you need to upgrade and then the “magic” 1000 hrs of TPIC, and it’s going to take everyone some time to get through initial training, it doesn’t seem possible to do just a heck of a lot better - on the average - than that.
And I’m not saying just not likely, but not really possible.
And while yeah sure, not everyone leaving is necessarily going to their first choice of places to go, neither have they precisely wasted their time at Compass either. They’ve gotten in, gotten a type rating, gotten experience that improved their resume’ and left for someplace better, without spending six months on reserve not flying sitting in a crash pad someplace they didn’t want to be. And I reiterate; the mandatory retirements at the majors haven’t even peaked yet.
What more was anyone realistically expecting from a regional? Seriously?
If you want to actually spend a career at a regional, Republic and Skywest would probably be better bets. Compass is more of a get in and get experience and move on sort of place.
We are currently losing about 20 a month to attrition, out of a pilot population of maybe 675. That’s about three percent per month. That’s 36% per year. And the mandatory retirements at the majors haven’t even peaked yet.
Increase that by 2 pilots a month who wouldn’t have otherwise left and we are up to 3.3% per month or almost 40% per year.
Since even at the maximum legal rate of 1000 hours a year - blocking 83.3 hours a month - it will take you two full years to get the hours you need to upgrade and then the “magic” 1000 hrs of TPIC, and it’s going to take everyone some time to get through initial training, it doesn’t seem possible to do just a heck of a lot better - on the average - than that.
And I’m not saying just not likely, but not really possible.
And while yeah sure, not everyone leaving is necessarily going to their first choice of places to go, neither have they precisely wasted their time at Compass either. They’ve gotten in, gotten a type rating, gotten experience that improved their resume’ and left for someplace better, without spending six months on reserve not flying sitting in a crash pad someplace they didn’t want to be. And I reiterate; the mandatory retirements at the majors haven’t even peaked yet.
What more was anyone realistically expecting from a regional? Seriously?
If you want to actually spend a career at a regional, Republic and Skywest would probably be better bets. Compass is more of a get in and get experience and move on sort of place.
#1790
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Joined APC: Oct 2011
Position: Taco Rocket Operator
Posts: 2,485
I fail to see a downside to this.
We are currently losing about 20 a month to attrition, out of a pilot population of maybe 675. That’s about three percent per month. That’s 36% per year. And the mandatory retirements at the majors haven’t even peaked yet.
Increase that by 2 pilots a month who wouldn’t have otherwise left and we are up to 3.3% per month or almost 40% per year.
Since even at the maximum legal rate of 1000 hours a year - blocking 83.3 hours a month - it will take you two full years to get the hours you need to upgrade and then the “magic” 1000 hrs of TPIC, and it’s going to take everyone some time to get through initial training, it doesn’t seem possible to do just a heck of a lot better - on the average - than that.
And I’m not saying just not likely, but not really possible.
And while yeah sure, not everyone leaving is necessarily going to their first choice of places to go, neither have they precisely wasted their time at Compass either. They’ve gotten in, gotten a type rating, gotten experience that improved their resume’ and left for someplace better, without spending six months on reserve not flying sitting in a crash pad someplace they didn’t want to be. And I reiterate; the mandatory retirements at the majors haven’t even peaked yet.
What more was anyone realistically expecting from a regional? Seriously?
If you want to actually spend a career at a regional, Republic and Skywest would probably be better bets. Compass is more of a get in and get experience and move on sort of place.
We are currently losing about 20 a month to attrition, out of a pilot population of maybe 675. That’s about three percent per month. That’s 36% per year. And the mandatory retirements at the majors haven’t even peaked yet.
Increase that by 2 pilots a month who wouldn’t have otherwise left and we are up to 3.3% per month or almost 40% per year.
Since even at the maximum legal rate of 1000 hours a year - blocking 83.3 hours a month - it will take you two full years to get the hours you need to upgrade and then the “magic” 1000 hrs of TPIC, and it’s going to take everyone some time to get through initial training, it doesn’t seem possible to do just a heck of a lot better - on the average - than that.
And I’m not saying just not likely, but not really possible.
And while yeah sure, not everyone leaving is necessarily going to their first choice of places to go, neither have they precisely wasted their time at Compass either. They’ve gotten in, gotten a type rating, gotten experience that improved their resume’ and left for someplace better, without spending six months on reserve not flying sitting in a crash pad someplace they didn’t want to be. And I reiterate; the mandatory retirements at the majors haven’t even peaked yet.
What more was anyone realistically expecting from a regional? Seriously?
If you want to actually spend a career at a regional, Republic and Skywest would probably be better bets. Compass is more of a get in and get experience and move on sort of place.
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