There’s actually a plan?

I thought it was just sort of a happening...;)

Do you think it's a coincidence that Delta just happens to have 90 717's?


The A220's will drive replacements more than regional displacement.

And those A220s just cant fill up seats to cities that regional flies to.

Have you seen how successful the deployment of the 717 on “regional” routes has been? Trust me they will have no issues. This just means more mainline jobs for current regional pilots.

Given that Delta is still flying the even older MD-88 and MD-90, who knows when Delta will retire the 717s? But certainly, at least some of the A220s will eventually pick up that flying as well. But the point still remains.

And both Airbus through the purchase of 51% of the A220 and Boeing through the purchase of pretty much the entire civilian side of Embraer have signaled their intention to get in the "jumbo RJ" contest. It is possible, I suppose, that the major pilots will give ground in scope, but I doubt it, short of a bankruptcy contract.

Yet the increased fuel efficiency of these aircraft mean they are going to be flown by SOMEBODY because they are going to be money makers. That may be someone like Moxy, flying them on long thin routes, or it may be the majors (or perhaps Horizon since Alaska has no scope) flying them on the longer less thin routes that many regionals fly 70 and 76 pax aircraft on today.

Clearly, some flying currently done by regionals, especially the flying between major airports, will tend to gravitate to the larger more efficient aircraft. Does that mean the smaller codeshares go away? Probably not, but I do anticipate they will increasingly be competing with newer, increasingly efficient 100+ seat narrow bodies, whoever is flying them.

We'll see.

The MD88 is planned to be gone by end of 2020. The MD90 is looking like 2023.

The 717 is still being leased till 2025, and then the lease is up and they assume it won't be renewed at that point.

The A220 has 90 firm orders now, with 50 of them being the 300 Model. That airplane really isn't designed to do 717/MD88 type of flying but you never know I suppose. They keep touting "Long and Thing" as the mission for that airframe.

Back when I was interviewed, it seemed like Compass was taking anyone with 1000 hours and 0 jet. Anyone hired lately care to share what experience they have? I have a couple friends with jet time not able to get a call.

Those DAL 717’s are owned by SW and leased to Delta. They’ve got several years to go. 5+


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My phone never rang. Pom poms deflated.

I would shut up when they use 717/ A220 on SEA-EUG/MFR/GEG/RDM/YVR/YYJ/PDX/PSC, SLC-MFR/EUG/RDM/IDA/BZN 4-5 flts a day!

There are markets that even 717/220s are too big, they want to get rid of DC, they have to get rid of small cities flying.