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Old 09-13-2007 | 03:52 PM
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Oh I'm just giving you a hard time Pilot41. Just look at work rules (I believe XJET has the best) and domiciles. You want to be close to your base. Commuting adds lots of extra time away from home. As far as pay, that is self explanatory on the published pay scales.
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Old 09-13-2007 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilot41
Look guys, I'm just asking for a general idea. Example, Mesa is at the bottom.
That is still a subjective statement. Most people at my airplane hate Mesa pilots. I personally don't care. We're all here to do the same thing: fly. Some would say American Eagle would be best. I'd disagree with that as well since upgrade time can be a career. To each his own....
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Old 09-13-2007 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cessna157
That is still a subjective statement. Most people at my airplane hate Mesa pilots. I personally don't care. We're all here to do the same thing: fly. Some would say American Eagle would be best. I'd disagree with that as well since upgrade time can be a career. To each his own....
I doubt anyone hates Mesa pilots, just the company they work for.
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Old 09-13-2007 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cessna157
That is still a subjective statement. Most people at my airplane hate Mesa pilots. I personally don't care. We're all here to do the same thing: fly. Some would say American Eagle would be best. I'd disagree with that as well since upgrade time can be a career. To each his own....
Pilots hating Mesa pilots?
Eagle being the best?

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Old 09-14-2007 | 01:01 AM
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How much better is Xjet's contract vs. Air Wisky's? Also I've herd that Air Wisky's future isn't so hot, when does thier agreement with airways expire? Which, Xjet or Air Wisky, has a better long term out look (assuming Xjet will lose even more flying from CAL)?
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Old 09-14-2007 | 01:08 AM
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If XJT loses more airplanes on the CAL side but their branded flying and charter stuff is successful, then this could be a blessing in disguise for them. Air Wisky has no real plans to make changes to their very old CRJ fleet and that pretty much is going to hurt them. What they do have going for them is they still have a small stake of ownership in usair which they can hold on to and was a great investment for them regardless of whether they keep flying for them or not.
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Old 09-14-2007 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cessna157
Most people at my airplane hate Mesa pilots.
Well, just wait until you've started your next pairing and then ask the people on that airplane.
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Old 09-14-2007 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ghilis101
If XJT loses more airplanes on the CAL side but their branded flying and charter stuff is successful, then this could be a blessing in disguise for them. Air Wisky has no real plans to make changes to their very old CRJ fleet and that pretty much is going to hurt them. What they do have going for them is they still have a small stake of ownership in usair which they can hold on to and was a great investment for them regardless of whether they keep flying for them or not.
I hope man, Im starting to sweat................. I dont wanna have to leave EWR to upgrade, but hell I hope I just have a job in a year...........
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Old 09-14-2007 | 05:16 AM
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I hope man, Im starting to sweat................. I dont wanna have to leave EWR to upgrade, but hell I hope I just have a job in a year...........
I doubt you have anything to worry about. CAL is doing now what every other carrier has been doing for years: diversify. Delta is the king of this. Go to any podunk midwestern town with DAL service and you'll probably see Comair, ASA, and CHQ all sitting on the ramp. As you work your way south, toss in Freedom. If any one of those strike (and two of us are in contract negotiations right now) all that happens is one of those flights cancel with minimal effect on the system. They just reroute people through CVG instead of ATL or vice versa. Not to mention the pain in the ass it would be to identify "struck" work.

On the flipside...if XJT struck...CAL's entire regional jet service is done. CAL didn't take that flying cuz you guys have a bad product...they took it to protect themselves. And likewise, if CHQ wasn't doing that flying, SKW, Mesa, TSA, etc. would be and you would hate all of those guys instead of us. Although, at least then someone else would get to pull their eyes out trying to match their procedures with people that tell you everyday "Well this is how XJT does it..."

So...XJT has to diversify who they fly for...which they are. You guys got DAL on the west coast, branded flying nationally, and I wouldn't be surprised if you picked up another codeshare or two at some point in the next couple years. Then we can all get on here and complain about how XJT took our base and how unfair life is. I think your job is just fine.
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Old 09-14-2007 | 05:23 AM
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I doubt you have anything to worry about. CAL is doing now what every other carrier has been doing for years: diversify. Delta is the king of this. Go to any podunk midwestern town with DAL service and you'll probably see Comair, ASA, and CHQ all sitting on the ramp. As you work your way south, toss in Freedom. If any one of those strike (and two of us are in contract negotiations right now) all that happens is one of those flights cancel with minimal effect on the system. They just reroute people through CVG instead of ATL or vice versa. Not to mention the pain in the ass it would be to identify "struck" work.

On the flipside...if XJT struck...CAL's entire regional jet service is done. CAL didn't take that flying cuz you guys have a bad product...they took it to protect themselves. And likewise, if CHQ wasn't doing that flying, SKW, Mesa, TSA, etc. would be and you would hate all of those guys instead of us. Although, at least then someone else would get to pull their eyes out trying to match their procedures with people that tell you everyday "Well this is how XJT does it..."

So...XJT has to diversify who they fly for...which they are. You guys got DAL on the west coast, branded flying nationally, and I wouldn't be surprised if you picked up another codeshare or two at some point in the next couple years. Then we can all get on here and complain about how XJT took our base and how unfair life is. I think your job is just fine.

Thanks bud........ Hope so sorry if I bashed you guys.............
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