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Old 10-06-2007, 04:14 PM
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Im not quite sure what the deal is with Compass. A buddy of mine applied to them as soon as they opened the doors. He is a former ACA/Indy guy and spoke personally with the D/ops who was the same D/ops at ACA and only got a luke-warm response. So he applied elsewhere is now flying a 757 and Compass recently called him twice in one day begging him to interview. What gives?
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 View Post
Im not quite sure what the deal is with Compass. A buddy of mine applied to them as soon as they opened the doors. He is a former ACA/Indy guy and spoke personally with the D/ops who was the same D/ops at ACA and only got a luke-warm response. So he applied elsewhere is now flying a 757 and Compass recently called him twice in one day begging him to interview. What gives?
um, airline management?

these are the same people that think flying a smaller airplane at a higher cost per ASM is better than a bigger one at a lower ASM
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by saab2000 View Post
It's in the top 5.

Seems like the consensus is that it's not a great move. This is what I had suspected. I have felt the same way. Had I gotten in on day 1 it would have been different. I applied as soon as they started accepting apps, but now it would be a step backwards.

If I still lived in MSP it'd probably be worth it, but given my current situation it seems to make sense to stick it out here.

Thanks for the opinions.
The thing is...you can still get there by just staying at AWAC and building PIC. Plus, you'll be marketable to the other 4 in your top 5.

Flow thru's are a great selling point...unless you look at how many people actually flow thru somewhere. If any Eagle pilots want to chime in here, don't let me stop you...
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:31 PM
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In 2 yrs at AWAC on reserve you will get about 400-500 hours PIC on reserve. I do not know how fast you will be a line holder. Probably the only way to get to NWA will be through Pinn or CPS flow up. if you get on now you wil be FO for 8 months then capt and a line holder I would guess in a year or at least by the end of 08 when 36 acft are in. 180-200 CA. But in 2-3 years you will be able to flow up. Everyone is being typed, also.
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:38 PM
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In 2 yrs at AWAC on reserve you will get about 400-500 hours PIC on reserve. I do not know how fast you will be a line holder. Probably the only way to get to NWA will be through Pinn or CPS flow up. if you get on now you wil be FO for 8 months then capt and a line holder I would guess in a year or at least by the end of 08 when 36 acft are in. 180-200 CA. But in 2-3 years you will be able to flow up. Everyone is being typed, also.
Just like the only way to get to Airways is through PDT or PSA? Are you kidding?
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:42 PM
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Hi!

I would do one of three things:

1-Stay at AWAC 'til you get 1000 PIC jet, and then look.

2-Get your CRJ type rating, ensure you have 500 in type (don't need 500 PIC for most of these jobs) and go to Asia: India, Japan, China, etc. Get a $100K/year off the street captain job, with housing, car and driver and kid's school paid for. A buddy of mine at AWAC is going to China ASAP after his Capt type rating.

3-Leave if you get a CAREER job, such as FedEx/Delta/3M.

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PS-I applied a number of times for AWAC. Could not get an interview.
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bata View Post
In 2 yrs at AWAC on reserve you will get about 400-500 hours PIC on reserve. I do not know how fast you will be a line holder. Probably the only way to get to NWA will be through Pinn or CPS flow up. if you get on now you wil be FO for 8 months then capt and a line holder I would guess in a year or at least by the end of 08 when 36 acft are in. 180-200 CA. But in 2-3 years you will be able to flow up. Everyone is being typed, also.
Well, first of all there is no "Pinn" (PCL? Huh?) flow up. NWA has flow through agreements with Compass and Mesaba. I have seen estimates of NWA hiring as many as 40 per month. If this number is correct, by the nature of their flow agreements, Compass and Mesaba combined cannot provide 40 pilots per month. NWA is going to be doing a lot of off the street hiring for pilots. Anyone with a reasonable amount of total time and 121 Captain time will have a shot at it. From what I've heard, NWA doesn't even care too much about internal recs. They just churn your time grid and come up with "interview" or "not yet".
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:52 PM
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Oh ya, your right, ment mesaba. True NWA will hire off the street but what average pic turbine going to be and how long. Just about anywhere you apply will want the 1000 turbine pic.
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What's the deal with 3M?
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:58 AM
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What's the deal with 3M?
They have a fleet of I believe 5 Gulfstreams. I have a cousin that is in management there. I asked her if she could help me out, her response was "HA! You would first have to join the Navy, get assigned to a specific squadron, THEN maybe you would get a shot at it." The CP is a Navy guy that hires guys from his old squadron. FWIW
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