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Old 06-01-2009 | 09:22 AM
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$24000/yr? With per-diem and flying a crapload, maybe.

Just flew with a guy who was previously a furloughee; he made more on unemployment than as a CPS FO!

But yeah...back on topic...don't think we at CPS are in much of a position to fight for better nonrev bennies. For one, they actually are getting better: we presently board behind all mainline employees on our *own* metal regardless of DOH, and we are represented by mainline DALPA reps.
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Old 06-01-2009 | 09:42 AM
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AND.....my personal favorite....Hourly (all non-mgt) board after salaried (mgt). Flippin' sweeeeeeeettt......
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Old 06-01-2009 | 09:12 PM
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AND.....my personal favorite....Hourly (all non-mgt) board after salaried (mgt). Flippin' sweeeeeeeettt......
NWA management (non-executive) currently has no higher priority on CPS than any other NWA employee. On Mainline flights mgt goes on pass type 3 vs. pass type 5 for hourly employees. NWA pays their management employees less than industry standard because they place a value of 3-5k on those higher pass types.
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Old 06-01-2009 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus
$24000/yr? With per-diem and flying a crapload, maybe.

Just flew with a guy who was previously a furloughee; he made more on unemployment than as a CPS FO!

But yeah...back on topic...don't think we at CPS are in much of a position to fight for better nonrev bennies. For one, they actually are getting better: we presently board behind all mainline employees on our *own* metal regardless of DOH, and we are represented by mainline DALPA reps.
We are actually at the same pass type as NWA employees on CPS flights: we both go on pass type 5. I think we get a worse deal with Delta because now not only mainline, but XJ and OH can bump us off Compass flights by DOH (we're all pretty "junior" here).
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Old 06-02-2009 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Schwartz
NWA management (non-executive) currently has no higher priority on CPS than any other NWA employee. On Mainline flights mgt goes on pass type 3 vs. pass type 5 for hourly employees. NWA pays their management employees less than industry standard because they place a value of 3-5k on those higher pass types.
I was referencing the new "side by side" comparison posted on the portal. According to that document, salaried employees board before houry, making note that DOH and job classification are taken into consideration, but only within the parameter of salaried vs. hourly. Now, I have to admit that this might be a bit of an apples/oranges compairison, as this the the XJ info and not the CPS info (don't have access to it). Mea culpa....
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Old 06-02-2009 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Schwartz
We are actually at the same pass type as NWA employees on CPS flights: we both go on pass type 5. I think we get a worse deal with Delta because now not only mainline, but XJ and OH can bump us off Compass flights by DOH (we're all pretty "junior" here).
XJ is the same deal. We can get bumped by DL Mainline, CPS, or OH on our own metal based on DOH. We're S3 on wholly owned, but S3C on all others.
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Old 06-02-2009 | 09:27 AM
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Welcome to teh suck gentlemen!
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Old 06-02-2009 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ZDub
I was referencing the new "side by side" comparison posted on the portal. According to that document, salaried employees board before houry, making note that DOH and job classification are taken into consideration, but only within the parameter of salaried vs. hourly. Now, I have to admit that this might be a bit of an apples/oranges compairison, as this the the XJ info and not the CPS info (don't have access to it). Mea culpa....
You're correct: salaried employees first, but that's only on mainline. On airlink there's no pass type 3 for mainline salaried employees (they rerer to themselves as "management").
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