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AlaskaBound 04-17-2014 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by djrogs03 (Post 1624984)
Yes but keep in mind the newsletter also said we are having staffing problems just like all the other regional carriers. While we have a good name for ourselves, were not exempt from the hiring struggles others have felt, and our lack of a top of the line contract and no signing incentive will hurt us in the long run...Eventually this airline will stop running out of quick upgrades and the pilots we hire will have to be incentivized to come here...

Exactly, that's why I say "how is anyone going to staff them"...even us. To hire enough FOs to cover the flows plus new airplanes would be nearly impossible from the sounds of it. That's why I say American may have to to end up dividing up the deliveries because there isn't one regional out there that could take on all of the planned delivers unless that particular regional had 50 seaters to park.

Deice Press 04-17-2014 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 1624974)
I envision American dividing up the airplane deliveries. 15 here, 15 there...etc. That may help with the staffing issues. No one single carrier will get the entire order.

It's of my very uninformed opinion that it is what is happening. The recent-ish united RFP that went to Mesa which may very well have been lower cost than compass was also largely decided due to the entire award going to 1 carrier. Compass had no interest in adding that much flying and still doesn't. What does interest them is 10-15 aircraft at most and that would be my assumption for the route they took with their finally announced bid on the american rfp.

papacharlie 04-17-2014 02:36 PM

How can I get a interview with compass I have my application on airapps but nothing...I'm currently flying on a 121 and would like to be base in LAX, and it seems like a nice place to work.
Any info greatly appreciated

UPTme 04-17-2014 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by papacharlie (Post 1625067)
How can I get a interview with compass I have my application on airapps but nothing...I'm currently flying on a 121 and would like to be base in LAX, and it seems like a nice place to work.
Any info greatly appreciated

I'd recommend you have someone proofread your airline apps and resume for you.

New hire classes (of 4ish) are still running and interviews are still happening. Keep updating and hitting up your bros.

Temocil27 04-17-2014 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by papacharlie (Post 1625067)
How can I get a interview with compass I have my application on airapps but nothing...I'm currently flying on a 121 and would like to be base in LAX, and it seems like a nice place to work.
Any info greatly appreciated

Do you have a four year degree?

MARX 04-18-2014 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by djrogs03 (Post 1624984)
Yes but keep in mind the newsletter also said we are having staffing problems just like all the other regional carriers. While we have a good name for ourselves, were not exempt from the hiring struggles others have felt, and our lack of a top of the line contract and no signing incentive will hurt us in the long run...Eventually this airline will stop running out of quick upgrades and the pilots we hire will have to be incentivized to come here...

I think you misread the news letter - it didn't say that we're having staffing issues, it said "our number of applicants is down slightly". We're currently building a hiring pool, and are not having staffing issues or difficulty attracting qualified applicants.

Keep in mind, we usually have several hundred applications on file - "down slightly" could mean low hundreds instead of high hundreds.

typical41 04-18-2014 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by MARX (Post 1625619)
I think you misread the news letter - it didn't say that we're having staffing issues, it said "our number of applicants is down slightly". We're currently building a hiring pool, and are not having staffing issues or difficulty attracting qualified applicants.

Keep in mind, we usually have several hundred applications on file - "down slightly" could mean low hundreds instead of high hundreds.


I really think that building a pool, right now, is a big mistake. I understand we are dealing with TSH.

Right now, we have right around 530 pilots. A bare Minimum of 91 flow pilots will still be leaving in 2014. Most likely 130 pilots will leave in 2015 to the flow to DL as well(Minimum of 80 though). All this is assuming that DL does not take an additional 15-20 flow pilots in 2014, and there is a lot of talk of that being a real possibility. You combine that with at least around 25 pilots per year going to other carriers.

I just don't understand why we would put ANY qualified pilot, who successfully interviewed, in a pool, considering the hiring environment we are in. Those pilots are now very likely to not wait-it-out for Compass, and leave to other regional carriers who have an earlier class date. It will get worse and worse by the day, trying to find qualified pilots who want to come to Compass. Get these guys and gals in a class now, before they go elsewhere.

We might not have had a problem hiring for this past wave of flows, but I fear it will be much more difficult this next time around. One thing is for sure, if they wait as long as they did last time (Late July) to ramp up the full hiring for the departing flow pilots, we will find ourselves in a very bad staffing situation real fast.

With 117, the addition of the LAX base, and our new contract...I don't think Compass can get by with less than 490 or 500 pilots. Either hope that you can get 20 pilots a month this fall, or start putting the pilots in class now.

I think it is hilarious, after all this being said, that TSH would bid on the AA E170 flying. I don't think we could even staff 5 new E170's for AA. I wish AA would just give those planes to Eagle; they have the pilots right now to staff them.

MrMustache 04-18-2014 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by MARX (Post 1625619)
I think you misread the news letter - it didn't say that we're having staffing issues, it said "our number of applicants is down slightly". We're currently building a hiring pool, and are not having staffing issues or difficulty attracting qualified applicants.

Keep in mind, we usually have several hundred applications on file - "down slightly" could mean low hundreds instead of high hundreds.

This.

We also still don't have 575 pilots either

captnmo 04-18-2014 12:35 PM

I was offered a job April 3rd and still waiting to hear about a class date. I'm told no classes until June-ish

klondike 04-19-2014 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by typical41 (Post 1625648)
I really think that building a pool, right now, is a big mistake. I understand we are dealing with TSH.

Right now, we have right around 530 pilots. A bare Minimum of 91 flow pilots will still be leaving in 2014. Most likely 130 pilots will leave in 2015 to the flow to DL as well(Minimum of 80 though). All this is assuming that DL does not take an additional 15-20 flow pilots in 2014, and there is a lot of talk of that being a real possibility. You combine that with at least around 25 pilots per year going to other carriers.

I just don't understand why we would put ANY qualified pilot, who successfully interviewed, in a pool, considering the hiring environment we are in. Those pilots are now very likely to not wait-it-out for Compass, and leave to other regional carriers who have an earlier class date. It will get worse and worse by the day, trying to find qualified pilots who want to come to Compass. Get these guys and gals in a class now, before they go elsewhere.

We might not have had a problem hiring for this past wave of flows, but I fear it will be much more difficult this next time around. One thing is for sure, if they wait as long as they did last time (Late July) to ramp up the full hiring for the departing flow pilots, we will find ourselves in a very bad staffing situation real fast.

With 117, the addition of the LAX base, and our new contract...I don't think Compass can get by with less than 490 or 500 pilots. Either hope that you can get 20 pilots a month this fall, or start putting the pilots in class now.

I think it is hilarious, after all this being said, that TSH would bid on the AA E170 flying. I don't think we could even staff 5 new E170's for AA. I wish AA would just give those planes to Eagle; they have the pilots right now to staff them.

Tell the boneheads to call me. I've gone to two job fairs. I update my stuff all the time at Airline Ap's. I've sent my resume there to HQ twice to the HR folks. They Won't give me the time of day.
I'm not unqualified either by any stretch. Hope to see you on the on-line.


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