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07-10-2014, 08:43 AM
#3851
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
Studying is not going to be a problem for me... However, reading aerodynamics for naval aviators is. I'm 45 pages km and want to throw the book against a wall lol. I can understand maybe 20% of what I'm reading-it seems very geared toward those who understand advanced aerodynamics.
07-10-2014, 08:53 AM
#3852
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Originally Posted by tunes
the old xjet ones...
xjet now only does an atp style test...no cog or pers.
xjet now only does an atp style test...no cog or pers.
07-10-2014, 08:53 AM
#3853
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
I'd read the aerodynamics section of "Ace the Technical Pilot Interview". I think I only read the first two chapters of Naval Aviator text book and my the high speed aero chapter (if there is one, it has been a while).
That's not to say I'm not taking stuff away from naval aviators, I am. But there is a lot that is over my head.
ATM I am going three ANA, everything explained, and will add ace the tech and turbine manual to my list. Lots of reading to do but it's amazing how much new knowledge you get from re reading and how much of your current knowledge gets refreshed.
07-10-2014, 08:57 AM
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You don't need to get deep into the aerodynamics stuff honestly. Know and understand the theory behind crit mach, mach tuck and buffet, swept wing design, fuel systems and such, mental math, etc etc. I think reading those super deep aerodynamics book will make someone even more confused... that's how it was for me at least. I just used Google and search for the stuff and clicked through website after website on my iPad during sits and what not.
I know of another guy that did great on the tech and didn't pass because of the cog. I guess I'll just add, the tech is hard so STUDY but be aware of the other tests as well. The cog can catch you off guard as it's a bit of a curve ball that some may not expect in regards to how it's actually set up. Biggest thing... read the directions! Take a breath and just do it.
Good luck all!
I know of another guy that did great on the tech and didn't pass because of the cog. I guess I'll just add, the tech is hard so STUDY but be aware of the other tests as well. The cog can catch you off guard as it's a bit of a curve ball that some may not expect in regards to how it's actually set up. Biggest thing... read the directions! Take a breath and just do it.
Good luck all!
07-10-2014, 08:58 AM
#3855
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Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
So fun story. I actually interviewed at Compass yesterday. I'm a RATP qualified CFI with a 141 background (no turbine experience). I studied my butt off for the knowledge test. I read the turbine pilot's flight manual and everything explained for the professional pilot, and aerodynamics for naval aviators. I talked with a few Compass pilots that I knew, read every gouge on willflyforfood and aviationinterviews.com and basically prepared for 3 solid weeks gathering all the info that I could to be ready for it. I was paranoid that the test would be way above my head and that I would bomb it.
Unfortunately, after the 3 tests I was pulled aside by one of the interviewers and I was told that I was not successful on one of the tests. I was so worried about the knowledge test and I was sure that it was the test that did me in. However, I was told by the interviewers that I did just fine on the knowledge test. Apparently I was unsuccessful on the cognitive test. Who would have thought? I was in absolute shock and had to double check with him that he did not mean the knowledge test. But he reiterated that it was the cognitive test and that I passed the knowledge tests just fine.
Honestly I have no idea what happened. I played luminosity and read every gouge I could find and was under the assumption that the cog and psy test were nothing to stress or worry about. I even felt like I was doing just fine while taking the test, I know I messed up a few times here and there but never did I think I would be unsuccessful at it. Clearly that was not the case. . . .
Unfortunately, after the 3 tests I was pulled aside by one of the interviewers and I was told that I was not successful on one of the tests. I was so worried about the knowledge test and I was sure that it was the test that did me in. However, I was told by the interviewers that I did just fine on the knowledge test. Apparently I was unsuccessful on the cognitive test. Who would have thought? I was in absolute shock and had to double check with him that he did not mean the knowledge test. But he reiterated that it was the cognitive test and that I passed the knowledge tests just fine.
Honestly I have no idea what happened. I played luminosity and read every gouge I could find and was under the assumption that the cog and psy test were nothing to stress or worry about. I even felt like I was doing just fine while taking the test, I know I messed up a few times here and there but never did I think I would be unsuccessful at it. Clearly that was not the case. . . .
07-10-2014, 09:18 AM
#3856
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
I'd read the aerodynamics section of "Ace the Technical Pilot Interview". I think I only read the first two chapters of Naval Aviator text book and my the high speed aero chapter (if there is one, it has been a while).
07-10-2014, 09:36 AM
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Position: Just another RJ guy
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It's tough to study for the cog test. The best and super obvious advice I got from someone was just get a normal amount of sleep. Relax the night before and clear your head. Don't cram study that night before. Give your brain a rest. Wake up at your normal time,or close to it, and follow your normal morning routine. If you drink coffee have a normal amount and don't skip breakfast. Make sure to have food in your system and be hydrated. Do all you can to stick to your normal routine as hard as it may be since you may be staying in a hotel. Relax, breathe, and don't get worked up with the cog test. It's really easy to get flustered.
07-10-2014, 09:41 AM
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I agree with AlaskaBound's advice on the cog test. The best thing you can do to prepare is to rest and (try) to be relaxed and mentally clear when you sit down at the computer. Don't anticipate anything, just do what it tells you on the screen.
For the job knowledge, I approached some of the systems and aerodynamics questions more as a SAT question and less as an ATP written. Instead of 'which one of these answers is correct', I deduced a few answers by revising that process to, 'which one of these answers is not like the other ones'. Don't get too hung up on the math on some of them. Estimate in the ballpark and one of the choices will be close.
For the job knowledge, I approached some of the systems and aerodynamics questions more as a SAT question and less as an ATP written. Instead of 'which one of these answers is correct', I deduced a few answers by revising that process to, 'which one of these answers is not like the other ones'. Don't get too hung up on the math on some of them. Estimate in the ballpark and one of the choices will be close.
07-10-2014, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tunes
be careful with that book...a lot of wrong information
I studied primarily the aerodynamics and the performance sections out of it.
It worked for me no problem.
I used that book, the AIM, Instrument Flying Handbook, and Turbine Pilots Flight Manual, and Mental Math for Pilots.
07-10-2014, 11:29 AM
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Position: FO SHO
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Originally Posted by coryk
Man I'm sorry to hear that! Did they offer you another chance to reinterview?
Anyway, they encouraged me to apply again within 3-6 months. I'm not sure if I can afford to wait around that long though....which really blows because Compass seems like a wonderful company and it definitely has a bright future ahead.
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