It's a long list and I'll give a few examples:

-No Northern Mississippi Flying club training department
-No hour long hold times to get scheduling on the phone
-Hotels are generally very nice and much better than Pinnacle
-Trips are built better (less legs and shorter duty days for the same credit)
-Don't have to carry 40lbs of approach charts
-Planes are well maintained and the APUs aren't deferred

good for you...also most of that list is not true..

Well what isn't true.

Observation: If you didn't get that flybywine's "best of the best" comment was a joke, then you'll probably have trouble with the computer personality test in the interview. :)

Seriously.....this is one of the lowest-drama pilot groups imaginable.

We switched back to jepps and no longer have to carry 40lbs of approach charts!

Everything else is pretty undeniably true.

Northern Mississippi flying club still runs Memphis (Training dept.)
Wait times over an hour to talk to CS many many days
Hotels are and always have been terrible
Trips are terrible, often scheduled 12 hours of duty for min day pay with 4 hour sits
Maintenance is terrible, many APUs deferred.

LostinPA,

Thank you for getting me. You complete me.

anyone have an update on contract negotiations, when is the final verdict due?

The arbitrator must rule on the new contract by early Nov.

I don't have the exact timeline in front of me, but the company and ALPA are currently meeting on a regular basis with a mediator. Anything unresolved by the fall will be decided by the same mediator, who will switch roles and become an arbitrator. The arbitration is binding and the new agreement will be completed no later than November. I'm sure someone will correct me if this is wrong.

Sometime in November. 115 days from now is what the count down clock says.

Clarification: there is a limit of open items the arbitrator will rule on. I believe it is 20 items. I think all other unresolved issues revert back to the old language. I say "think" because I'm relying on my memory so take it for what it's worth.

This is what my malted hops plagued memory recalls as well!

Would you happen to know what the 20 items are? Could new hires look forward to hotel and per diem in training or is that still unknown?

Unknown...

20 items per side. So there could be a total of 40 items to be decided upon in arbitration.

I was told it was 20 from both so they have to agree on the 20 items

Nope. It can be as many as 20 from each side. Some issues can overlap, but they don't have to.

I think each side agreeing to the 20 items would be an absolute impossibility at this point. Another common misconception is that it's like 'baseball arbitration', which it's not. The arbitrator can pick a side or he can go with 'industry standard'.

Sounds like new hire classes to start soon.

I'd be curious how many people in the pool are still interested after a year in it.

Anywho...Welcome aboard.

This is all true.

No way to know what the 20 items will be until direct and/or mediated negotiations are complete. At that point, each side will look at the items that are not agreed to, and pick the 20 that are most important to them.

Saw on the other site that the first class is next Thursday! Glad the poolies can finally dry off, it was a long wait!

Any idea how big/often/many number of classes are going to be?

Speculation, but probably about 5 or 6 in a class, weekly until aprox Dec or Jan. We received an email from the union yesterday saying the company had told them 20 flows per month starting in Dec with a total of 115 going.

I don't know about class sizes and dates for poolies, but the flow looks like it's finally happening so weekly to bi-weekly classes of 6 or so sounds about right. Sim time is being cleared out for Sep. I was due for training then and was bumped up to Aug. a long with several other guys. Delta formally announced hiring starting with furlough bypasses starting in Nov. (class of 50) and planned to continue with a 50 pilot class in Dec. (maybe the first to have CP flows) and then 20 per month till Sep. 2014. Compass gets the first 20 seats in each class so that should mean a turnover of 25% of the Compass seniority list by late next spring. If you're in the pool sorry the wait's been long, but it's about to pay off big. If Delta continues hiring yearly upgrade time at CP will come down to 2-3 years. I was hired in 2010 and should be just under a 4 year upgrade if everything goes smoothly with daddy D. Game on gentlemen.

Any word on class size and frequency?

Friends getting called are hearing 20-25 a month. Don't know the rest... But I don't know for sure. Seems likely though. Anyone know about interviews starting again?

What kind of capacity does compass have for training? They only have the one sim in msp right?

Seems about 20 new hires per month is the usual. Word is new hire classes every week alternating between 6 and 4 in a class to equal 20/mth. There are rumors of renting sim time in St. Louis also. But those rumors have gone around before and it never happened last time because it all depends on how much Shuttle America or whoever is using it and they get first dibs. If CP wants to run new hires and upgrades simultaneously renting extra sim time may be a necessity. What they've done in the past is bring in new FO's and get them on the line, then release FO's to upgrade and once they're on the line as Caps. the flow guys go to Delta. If they really get in a bind I have to think there's an E-170 sim to rent somewhere. Looks like it's about to get crazy here. Word from the Chief Pilot is 130-140 new hires. 110-115 for flow plus 20-25 for attrition to other carriers and to cover the new duty/rest rules. I bet our training dept. is on the verge of a panic attack, but good news for us.

I am surprised this news hasn't blown up more. That's a metric ton of movement quickly.

What's there to blow up? You're either in the pool or you're on the outside looking in. Until they start interviewing again I guess it doesn't really matter what's happening.

I was told interviews to start around August. Of course it's subject to change.

What would it be like for someone getting in around December/January? Is that after all the hiring/classes will have taken place for these 115 flows or will it continue into 2014?

Are there many commuters from the west? Colorado or California specifically?

Compass updates
 

If you end up on the end of the hiring after the pool so december/jan for the flows and such you will be on reserve until the next year when the next round of flows are up to leave. So expect a year of reserve at the least

This is on the dream job list. It's time to game up, I guess. I'll be fighting almost all prior 121 people to get in with the current surplus of pilots. Hopefully American Eagle doesn't go belly up, not only obviously for the employees there but for people like me seeking jobs.

Not to rain on your parade, but if working for Compass is one of your "dream jobs", you may want to re-evaluate your career ambitions. While I have enjoyed my time at Compass, at the end of the day, it is still a regional airline and full of all the wonderful things that go along with that.

I sense a little "shiny jet syndrome" from your post, so perhaps Republic Airways would be a better option, as they have tons of brand new, beautiful EMB170s on order. You can even fly the EMB190 there!

Good luck!

Hey shhhhhh!! We need someone to sit ready for 28k/yr dont scare him away lol..

I guess some people have different ambitions in life. I suppose one could be happy with Rosie O'Donnell as their wife if they really really tried to. Of course the reality of it is that relationship would only be a one way street and she may never put out. But if your sunglasses were dark enough and your ear plugs thick enough you could at least tell people you were married and that would remove most doubt about your sexuality that the outside world once held. But if you're looking for quick and easy i think Spears (RaH) or Lohan (GoJet) might put out sooner and satiate that sjs itch quicker.

Don't get down on the guy. As far as places to go to get your career started CP is looking like a pretty good option right about now. He could have said Skywest was his dream job you know.

I'd take SKW over Compass, after all the hulas run the ship over there eek

No regional should ever be a dream job. That is my only point. Back to the thread!

New rumor is that ALPA is in discussions with Transstates and Delta about changing the flow limit from 25% of CP pilots per year to unlimited. If that happens 75% of the compass list could flow in 1.5 years.

Whatttttt?! Where did you hear this.