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250 or point 65 09-05-2009 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 673443)
I still consider 2000 hours low time. I thought they were hiring pilots with years of airline experience, not months.

does 2 years count? I guess that could also be considered 24 months.

i'm not sure if that was meant to be a dig or not, but it's not like they are hiring with wet commercials.

hom307 09-05-2009 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 673474)
does 2 years count? I guess that could also be considered 24 months.

i'm not sure if that was meant to be a dig or not, but it's not like they are hiring with wet commercials.

exactly what im saying, its not like they are interviewing/hiring people with a wet commercial, then i could see everyone gripe.

RiddleEagle18 09-13-2009 11:46 AM

any compass guys able to email me the contract? Got a job offer and just wanted some more details.

hom307 09-13-2009 01:54 PM

hey riddle eagle, when did they call you? did they place you in the pool?

mynameisjim 09-13-2009 01:59 PM

I'm curious when the next class starts. I thought the Sept 11th class was supposed to be the last of this group.

250 or point 65 09-13-2009 02:06 PM

yeah, thats what they told us on friday at orientation

hom307 09-13-2009 02:12 PM

best of luck to all you guys...there is still a hope of the pool.

RiddleEagle18 09-13-2009 02:49 PM

sorry poor choice of words. I was placed in the pool.

Spoilers 09-13-2009 03:04 PM

People that are getting interviews, did you have your resume walked in?

hom307 09-13-2009 03:04 PM

riddle eagle, did you interview with me on september 3? when did they call you to notify you?

RiddleEagle18 09-13-2009 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by hom307 (Post 678095)
riddle eagle, did you interview with me on september 3? when did they call you to notify you?

Cant send you a PM. PM me when you get a few more post.

hom307 09-13-2009 03:24 PM

yeah that feature does not seem to appear on my login. i just joined not long after interviewing here.

RiddleEagle18 09-13-2009 03:27 PM

i think you only need 1 more post.

hom307 09-13-2009 03:30 PM

send me a message to [email protected]

UnlimitedAkro 09-14-2009 03:06 AM

So what is the latest news they are telling our new hires and people who interview??

NightIP 09-14-2009 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 673443)
I still consider 2000 hours low time. I thought they were hiring pilots with years of airline experience, not months.

They can't get guys with years of experience to work for that kind of pay in that jet.

hockeypilot44 09-14-2009 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by NightIP (Post 678446)
They can't get guys with years of experience to work for that kind of pay in that jet.

Understood. I guess the argument about Compass hiring standards being the exact same as Delta's is false.

atpcliff 09-14-2009 09:54 AM

Hi!

I have about 4500, 3500 MEJet, 1100+ PIC MEJet, and about 14 years of experience, and have been updating my application frequently. I also have a recommendation, and have not heard from them.

cliff
NBO

JetFlyer06 09-14-2009 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 678463)
Hi!

I have about 4500, 3500 MEJet, 1100+ PIC MEJet, and about 14 years of experience, and have been updating my application frequently. I also have a recommendation, and have not heard from them.

cliff
NBO

With that kind of experience why would you want to work at Compass???

aviatorpr 09-14-2009 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by JetFlyer06 (Post 678641)
With that kind of experience why would you want to work at Compass???

cause a paycheck is better than no paycheck. blows my mind how some people are above a flying job while on the street.

JetFlyer06 09-14-2009 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorpr (Post 678646)
cause a paycheck is better than no paycheck. blows my mind how some people are above a flying job while on the street.

His avatar says he is a DC-9 CA, just wondered why he wants to give that up for the right seat at Compass.

orangeglo 09-14-2009 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorpr (Post 678646)
cause a paycheck is better than no paycheck. blows my mind how some people are above a flying job while on the street.

That may be. However for some, year 1 at Compass would be a paycut from unemployment. For me at least, 3 years flying 121 is worth more than $22/hr or whatever it is.

The Dude Abides 09-14-2009 05:41 PM

In previous posts of his I believe he has mentioned his job is in Africa and he has to be over there for extended periods of time. I'm guessing he would like to be home more with his family.

Jetrecruiter 09-14-2009 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by JetFlyer06 (Post 678651)
His avatar says he is a DC-9 CA, just wondered why he wants to give that up for the right seat at Compass.

He is probably thinking of leaving Amerijet if the strike holds on!!! He can not be a Delta North guy....!!!

EmbraerFlyer 09-14-2009 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by orangeglo (Post 678661)
That may be. However for some, year 1 at Compass would be a paycut from unemployment. For me at least, 3 years flying 121 is worth more than $22/hr or whatever it is.

And on that paycut from unemployment, you are expected to get paid 18.5 hours for a 30 day ground school and have to pay for you own housing during ground and simulator training in MSP. That's worst than Mesa from what I'm hearing from a few guys. At least Mesa provide a dorm like housing during training.

Take this for what it is worth, but Compass right now is in an intense competition with Mesa, TSA, Go-Jet, Colgan and CommutAir to see who could be the worst

atpcliff 09-15-2009 12:10 AM

Hi!

Yeah, I am in NBO, on what was supposed to be a 165 day trip, which now has been extended indefinitely. I think it will end up at about a 270 day trip, which is rather long.

It will help me to get on newer equipment, and at Compass I can upgrade to captain in about a year, and then go to DAL, or I could leave if I had to and fly on a great commuting contract in Asia.

My best pilot friend is at Compass, after being laid off from Spirit (via TSA), and he is liking it, overall.

cliff
NBO

Oberon 09-15-2009 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by EmbraerFlyer (Post 678668)
And on that paycut from unemployment, you are expected to get paid 18.5 hours for a 30 day ground school and have to pay for you own housing during ground and simulator training in MSP. That's worst than Mesa from what I'm hearing from a few guys. At least Mesa provide a dorm like housing during training.

Take this for what it is worth, but Compass right now is in an intense competition with Mesa, TSA, Go-Jet, Colgan and CommutAir to see who could be the worst

You obviously haven't worked at Mesa, TSA, GoJet, or CommuteAir. Neither have I, but I've worked at Comair and Compass is a significantly better place to work. It's not Southwest Airlines, it's a regional airline. What did you expect?

mynameisjim 09-15-2009 05:11 AM

While I agree that Compass is a good place to work, I also have to agree that when it comes to new hires, Compass is probably the worst airline today.

Low pay for 30 days, no hotel for training, no plane ticket for training, first year pay lasts 14-15 months. Is there anyone else out there with that combination?

atpcliff 09-15-2009 05:34 AM

Hi!

My buddy and I were at Trans States.

He is at Compass now and likes it (he is an FO). He did NOT like Trans States. He was also at Spirit.


Take this for what it is worth, but Compass right now is in an intense competition
wrong...
with Mesa
Not Hiring-guys are furloughed,
TSA,
Not Hiring-guys are furloughed,
Go-Jet,
I do NOT think they are hiring now...
Colgan
They ARE hiring, and I assure you, that Compass is LIGHT YEARS better!
CommutAir
I do not think they are hiring, and see "Colgan", above
to see who could be the worst

While I agree that Compass is a good place to work, I also have to agree that when it comes to new hires, Compass is probably the worst airline today.
The worst and ONLY???

Low pay for 30 days, no hotel for training, no plane ticket for training, first year pay lasts 14-15 months. Is there anyone else out there with that combination?
No. Because no one else is hiring...
cliff
NBO

mynameisjim 09-15-2009 05:44 AM

So that makes it OK then?

BoilerUP 09-15-2009 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 673443)
I still consider 2000 hours low time. I thought they were hiring pilots with years of airline experience, not months.

How much flight time & what kind of experience did you have when you were hired at Chautauqua?

EmbraerFlyer 09-15-2009 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 678754)
Hi!

and at Compass I can upgrade to captain in about a year, and then go to DAL,

My best pilot friend is at Compass, after being laid off from Spirit (via TSA), and he is liking it, overall.

cliff
NBO

A year, who told you that? :) You are going to be highly disappointed when you come here and expect all that and it doesnt happen. Your buddy should do you some justice and tell you how it truly is at Compass. Im not saying it is the worst place to work but you expectations are a bit high to be honest with you. There is no one upgrading in a year. If they are telling you that in the interview its a lie. The latest set of Captain upgrades have been here 1 year and 8 months. And as for going to DAL after getting hired here and then upgrading in a year, wont happen. Im not saying the flow up wont happen but if you are hired today, it will take you at least 4 years to flow up if it start today. Go do some research before you come here

EmbraerFlyer 09-15-2009 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 678794)
You obviously haven't worked at Mesa, TSA, GoJet, or CommuteAir. Neither have I, but I've worked at Comair and Compass is a significantly better place to work. It's not Southwest Airlines, it's a regional airline. What did you expect?

You totally missed my point. You are always in a rush to defend any and everything about Compass, both just and unjust. You are so blinded by the fact that this regional is slightly better than your last 2 or three regional that you go as far and defend the same injustices that was and done to you at you last company. I was making the point that Compass is the worst for new hires due to the fact that you have to do a full 30 days of ground school for 18.5 hours of pay at $23.67 per hour. You totally missed the point that new hires are required to pay for their own housing due to the fact that they company is making all new hires MPS based to avoid hotel cost and and soon as they are done they go straight to DTW or MEM.

I understand that for you, you experience at Compass has been more than pleasant becasue you probably came in straight to a CA spot or was awared a CA spot in 6 months or less, but you need to come back to reality. For you to come on here and paint this pretty picture of Compass, you are doing an great deal injustice to those that are not in the know. That is one of thr problem eith this industry and the the state that it is in now. The guys that came before you telling you how awesome everthing is and then you found out the truth for yourself. I'm sure when you were are Comair, Skyway, and Elsewhere you were the bottom and say the Company for what it really is. You built up the courage to leave for whatever reason but Im sure if someone senior to you at the time defended all the flaws of Comair, Skyway and Wherever then you would think to yourself, "man this guy is out of touch." You have become that senior captain you despised for allowing the injustice to continue, at least that's how I see it..

I'm not saying you have to be negative all the time but just tell it like it is. Tell the truth. There are more flaws at Compass than all of us would like to see, but dont paint this picture that everything is ok and the things that are'nt then you shouldn't expect it to be any better because you are at a regional. By the trend of your post on this site and on Compasspilot, I can tell you are going to miss the point of this message. No one could ever say something bad about you little baby Compass, Oberon to the rescue...This isnt a personal attack, just pointing out the fact that you defend any and everything about Compass. Both Just and Unjust. Show some justice for once

atpcliff 09-15-2009 01:28 PM

Hi!

My buddy says (and I know) that it is night and day compared with TSA.

I think if you are interviewed in the next few months, and hired, 90% chance you will upgrade in about a year, if you meet the mins and will take the least popular base.

They guys who are there now, have been there for the worst...things will not be the same 6 months from now, as they were 6 months ago, not even close.

One the other hand, they will NOT interview me, and I won't get hired. If they wanted me, they would have already called. No DAL for me!

On to plan Z.

cliff
NBO

Seattlecfi 09-15-2009 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 679085)
Hi!

My buddy says (and I know) that it is night and day compared with TSA.

I think if you are interviewed in the next few months, and hired, 90% chance you will upgrade in about a year, if you meet the mins and will take the least popular base.

They guys who are there now, have been there for the worst...things will not be the same 6 months from now, as they were 6 months ago, not even close.

One the other hand, they will NOT interview me, and I won't get hired. If they wanted me, they would have already called. No DAL for me!

On to plan Z.

cliff
NBO

Did you interview at NWA?

EmbraerFlyer 09-15-2009 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 679085)
Hi!
I think if you are interviewed in the next few months, and hired, 90% chance you will upgrade in about a year, if you meet the mins and will take the least popular base.

I cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not. Everyone that is getting hired is already meeting the upgrade minimms. As of today, there are about 170 Captains of about 370 total pilots. Based on what you are saying if i get hired now and in a few weeks, there will be 200 upgrades in a year. That would be great if it happens but I'm going to say it is highly unlikely. Is this what they are telling guys that are interviewing. The most Junior Captain has a hired date of Feb 2008. Dont believe the lie that if you get hired now you will be a CA in a year. Unless Delta start flowing up and Compass start getting more plane I dont see that happening.

I'm no Miss Cleo so I could be wrong...

250 or point 65 09-15-2009 03:39 PM

No, that is NOT what they told us. All they said is that there is room for expansion only if Delta transfers flying or if they pick up another code-share. They also said that both were highly unlikely. They were nice, but were sure to make sure we understood that we were likely to rot on reserve for a while.

EmbraerFlyer 09-15-2009 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 679142)
No, that is NOT what they told us. All they said is that there is room for expansion only if Delta transfers flying or if they pick up another code-share. They also said that both were highly unlikely. They were nice, but were sure to make sure we understood that we were likely to rot on reserve for a while.

Did they tell you guys you have to provide you own housing during the entire training or is that something you found out after starting

250 or point 65 09-15-2009 04:01 PM

they told us at the interview, but at that point, i couldnt turn it down and continue unemployment. it probably would not have swayed my decision to interview either way. it pretty scarce out there.

EmbraerFlyer 09-15-2009 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 679146)
they told us at the interview, but at that point, i couldnt turn it down and continue unemployment. it probably would not have swayed my decision to interview either way. it pretty scarce out there.

I totally understand.. I was just curious to see if this was something that wasnt being told in the interview.


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