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Originally Posted by cessna157
(Post 713859)
Does anyone know the phone number to HR in Minneapolis? I was called, but the number left on my voice mail is inactive. Apparently this happened to quite a few guys.
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I spent a few months at Compass coming there with experience elsewhere. It's an ok company flying nice airplanes for a good mainline partner.
Good travel benefits and well maintained newer airplanes. Good procedures in the airplane as well. I couldn't do it any longer due to numerous reasons, one of them being that I would have to file for bankruptcy down the road if I continued. Before you say 'reduce your expenses' I'd say 'easier said than done'. Not willing to walk away from the house payments and most if not all other expenses has been cut to the bone. Why did I take the job in the first place? Because I lost my previous job due to cutbacks and there were not much available in the US. I was hoping to stay in the US this time but the money is overseas. So it's off again for another overseas job, paying weekly what Compass pays monthly... Less time at home - yes. But at least I'll be able to provide for the family. $24 an hour for flying a 76 seater is ridiculous but until people walk and others refuse to take the job it will not change. Good luck for all you new hires. Study hard and enjoy the airplane. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 714397)
Why is it soooooooo hard to understand that most of the larger RJ's(NW's in particular) are a result of BANKRUPTCY!? Do you honestly believe that BANKRUPTCY did NOT have something to do with this?
These large RJ's, along with MASSIVE paycuts, frozen or dissolved pensions, and less favorable work rules were CRAMMED down the throats of Legacy Pilots because management teams were able to manipulate BK rules to their advantage. This was not about short-sighted LEGACY pilots just giving up scope for more $$$. Look, I was at XE and I don't forget where I came from. I don't give Compass pilots a hard time, dirty looks, or flip them the birdie when I see them. As a matter of fact, I try to make them feel as comfortable as possible when they jumpseat on us. When I non-rev on them I do my best to strike up some friendly chat. I've had a really easy ride in this industry so far, and while I have cast stones in the past I do my best not to anymore because I haven't been confronted with a lot of the situations that other pilots have. Bottom line, guys are trying to feed their families and the pickings are next to non existent. Hopefully contracts start to improve again, as it can only be better for all of us. |
Originally Posted by jetflyger
(Post 715012)
I spent a few months at Compass coming there with experience elsewhere. It's an ok company flying nice airplanes for a good mainline partner.
Good travel benefits and well maintained newer airplanes. Good procedures in the airplane as well. I couldn't do it any longer due to numerous reasons, one of them being that I would have to file for bankruptcy down the road if I continued. Before you say 'reduce your expenses' I'd say 'easier said than done'. Not willing to walk away from the house payments and most if not all other expenses has been cut to the bone. Why did I take the job in the first place? Because I lost my previous job due to cutbacks and there were not much available in the US. I was hoping to stay in the US this time but the money is overseas. So it's off again for another overseas job, paying weekly what Compass pays monthly... Less time at home - yes. But at least I'll be able to provide for the family. $24 an hour for flying a 76 seater is ridiculous but until people walk and others refuse to take the job it will not change. Good luck for all you new hires. Study hard and enjoy the airplane. |
Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
(Post 715071)
Matt, Compass guys don't need you to patronize them............whats right is right and whats wrong is wrong, much like XJT not paying US during training, its complete BS and needs to change. The sooner we all realize there is a problem the sooner we can all fix it.
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 715078)
People wonder why I don't support all flying just being taken over at "mainline"....Well Compass is essentially what would happen....I'm not starting over at $24 an hour....I'd rather just keep the status quo....
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Entry Word: patronize
Function: verb Meaning: 1 to assume or treat with an air of superiority <patronize a child with an overly simple explanation> — see condescend 2 2 to promote the interests or cause of <a company that loyally patronizes the arts> — see support 1 |
Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
(Post 715083)
Entry Word: patronize
Function: verb Meaning: 1 to assume or treat with an air of superiority <patronize a child with an overly simple explanation> — see condescend 2 2 to promote the interests or cause of <a company that loyally patronizes the arts> — see support 1 OK, now that YOU have verified the meaning of 'patronize' for yourself, why don't you go back and highlight just exactly where I did so. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 715081)
Well that wouldn't be a problem at DAL Joe because starting pay is $52/hr.
It won't be if you negotiate to fly the RJs...It wasn't with Compass or MidAtlantic....Compass is essentially the new "starting pay" at Delta..... |
I hope the new hires have as pleasant a time as I have had here. Not once have i been jr manned and while I was on reserve only once was I called in with less than 12 hours notice. Speaking of reserve, it was cake. I only had one month where i flew over 75 hrs, the other months I was averaging 40-50. Laid back! I think not being in MSP was key to it all.
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 715087)
It won't be if you negotiate to fly the RJs...It wasn't with Compass or MidAtlantic....Compass is essentially the new "starting pay" at Delta.....
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 715089)
I guess it depends on which interview you go to. ;)
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I am having trouble updating my flight times. I was told you can update your times in a field like when I first applied. The only way I can right now is to post a new resume. Is that right?
Alknew |
Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 715104)
If all flying is brought to "mainline"....it won't matter...It will be Compass/MidAtlantic style at the bottom...No thanks...
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JoeyM,
Which would you prefer: 1) Current DCI whipsaw games or 2) Biting a bullet and bringing RJ's in like 'Compass/Midatlantic? |
Can anyone tell me if the pay scale on here "APC" for Compass is correct? Someone told me it isn't.
Also.... Does anyone know how long it takes in MSP between the home study stuff and to go on to IOE??? Thanks ahead of time! |
Ohiocrjfo,
Show up in MSP on your own. Do pre-employment medical, next day is an Indoc class. Go home 'study' for 30 days (you're paid around $400) for the 30 days of home study and under a normal pace you can knock it out in a week. Then go to MSP for about 5 weeks, consisting of more indoc, systems, procedures, flows and simulator. Normally you'll have weekends off during training to go home or study. After the sim check you'll have 2-4 days off before starting IOE. good luck |
Does anyone know a good place to find interview question for Compass?
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Originally Posted by Fly2lunch
(Post 715529)
Does anyone know a good place to find interview question for Compass?
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Originally Posted by Lou Reed
(Post 715088)
I hope the new hires have as pleasant a time as I have had here. Not once have i been jr manned and while I was on reserve only once was I called in with less than 12 hours notice. Speaking of reserve, it was cake. I only had one month where i flew over 75 hrs, the other months I was averaging 40-50. Laid back! I think not being in MSP was key to it all.
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Originally Posted by pinkpanther
(Post 715758)
This is a good example of how reserve use to look before HQ moved to MSP. Now that there are all new schedulers in MSP (all the experienced ones quit instead of moving from IAD to MSP) things have changed dramatically for the worse. The situation will probably improve when more pilots come onboard and the schedulers start observing the contract due to the settlement of numerous grievances, but for the near term I would expect to see more junior manning below min days off, calls in the middle of the night for notification, more airport reserve shifts, and attempts to call you out under your 2 hr callout.
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Originally Posted by Seattlecfi
(Post 715765)
Some of the new schedulers are former NWA who didn't move to ATL. My experience, they were some of the best I ever worked with.
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Some of the new schedulers are former NWA who didn't move to ATL. My experience, they were some of the best I ever worked with. Yup. The DC9 afternoon scheduler went to Compass. She's a great gain Compass guys. She'll help you out whenever she can. |
Relatively new Compass Training Scheduler is ex-NWA. She is first-rate...sometimes cannot accommodate requests, but only with good reasons. One can only ask that best effort to accommodate requests be made, which is how she operates. If she is an example of ex-NWA, those personnel were quite fortunate under her tutelage; in my previous life, I dealt with some really BAD-attitude schedulers. Sam the Trainer.
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Originally Posted by Semaphore Sam
(Post 716193)
Relatively new Compass Training Scheduler is ex-NWA. She is first-rate...sometimes cannot accommodate requests, but only with good reasons. One can only ask that best effort to accommodate requests be made, which is how she operates. If she is an example of ex-NWA, those personnel were quite fortunate under her tutelage; in my previous life, I dealt with some really BAD-attitude schedulers. Sam the Trainer.
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Benefits
Compass folks,
How are the benefits? What are the premiums for a family plan? Do you have dental and is there orthodontic coverage? How soon do they get you into cass? I wonder if I would be able to nonrev right away if hired being that I've already paid my $50? Thanks J |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 716227)
If her first name begins with 'A' then we are speaking of the same person. She is very fair, & will help you out if she can.
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Originally Posted by JSDL
(Post 716368)
Compass folks,
How are the benefits? What are the premiums for a family plan? Do you have dental and is there orthodontic coverage? How soon do they get you into cass? I wonder if I would be able to nonrev right away if hired being that I've already paid my $50? Thanks J Dental yes 22 per month for the fam. dont know of orthodontic Takes about 1 or 2 weeks for cass once you are hired. Yes on the non rev |
Originally Posted by Semaphore Sam
(Post 716193)
Relatively new Compass Training Scheduler is ex-NWA. She is first-rate...sometimes cannot accommodate requests, but only with good reasons. One can only ask that best effort to accommodate requests be made, which is how she operates. If she is an example of ex-NWA, those personnel were quite fortunate under her tutelage; in my previous life, I dealt with some really BAD-attitude schedulers. Sam the Trainer.
No offense but she is not as good as Gary. He always took request and never had a problem accomodating. He also knew the contract. She has yet to learn. |
Are there confirmed classes starting in Jan, Feb and so on? I'm assuming the classes in Dec. have been filled.
Any recent newhires on here, how long before you got a call for an interview? Did you have an internal rec.? |
Originally Posted by bohicagain
(Post 716492)
Benefits not great not horrible. as of 1/1/09 $320.00 per month for the family. 750 deductible for the fam then 80/20
Dental yes 22 per month for the fam. dont know of orthodontic Takes about 1 or 2 weeks for cass once you are hired. Yes on the non rev PS- Filled out the App online on a Friday, got a call on Monday, interviewed Wednesday, offered class on Friday - a week after filling the app. No internal recs. Purely good luck, that is all. |
congrats
Originally Posted by NEDude
(Post 716703)
1-2 weeks for CASS?! The last two airlines I worked for we were in the day we got the ID. The Compass folks said they would put our stuff in to CASS on day one, but it may take until the next day to be in. 1-2 weeks seems excessively long. For non-rev benefits I could see it though.
PS- Filled out the App online on a Friday, got a call on Monday, interviewed Wednesday, offered class on Friday - a week after filling the app. No internal recs. Purely good luck, that is all. |
Applied in last week of October. Got call for a Nov 17 interview. Called on the 18th with and offer.
5300 total 600 PIC 121 Midwest Furloughee No Recs, forloughed for over a year. Just really lucky I guess |
Hey guys to those of you that already interviewed, anything you can add to any gouges out there?. Got the call, trying to open time next week for interview. Thanks in advance.
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Have had my stuff in for about three weeks(no internal recs) and got a call this morning for a Dec 22nd interview.
What is the monthly hour guarantee line holder/reserve? Jr domicle? Time on RSV? Monthly schedule on RSV? 5 on 3 off, 6 on 3 off, 6 on 1 off, etc? What is the sim session in the interview like? |
4andcounting what class r u in? I had my stuff in online for over a year. Had an internal rec then got the call two weeks later interviewed 11th called 12th. Class for the 17th of Dec. I went to the fltops jobfair this past weekend and Compass was a big draw for people. Interview gouge is how you see it. Be yourself. They're looking for you to tell them who you are in your own words and style. I had no technical questions asked. It was laid back and a good experience. I can't wait to start. Ive been unemployed for 6 months. Surprisingly the first job I got was a flying one. God knows I had enough resumes out there to be a manager with whoever and no calls. It's rough out there.
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Can anyone tell me, is it possible to make a living on a regional paycheck? I have a family to take care of. I am a 135 guy and don't know diddly about 121. I would like to make the switch, but $24/hr? How does that translate into a livable income? I am serious. I have no idea.:confused:
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Originally Posted by jetstreamsurfer
(Post 716911)
Can anyone tell me, is it possible to make a living on a regional paycheck? I have a family to take care of. I am a 135 guy and don't know diddly about 121. I would like to make the switch, but $24/hr? How does that translate into a livable income? I am serious. I have no idea.:confused:
Conditions in the industry make a huge difference. Chances are, you are going to sit reserve for some time. I was just furloughed from my second 121; 3 years in the industry and never held a line. This puts you at the mercy of crew scheduling and the economy as to how much you can make. In the summer months, I could bring home $1800-2000/month on first year pay, plus a few hundred in per diem. In the winter, expect guarantee and nothing more. So 75 hours/month at most places X your hourly rate, with little or no per diem on the top. It is tough. If I had it to do all over again, I would be happy without the airline lifestyle if I could make a little more money. I don't know what kind of airplane you're flying at your current company, but a shiny jet at the regionals really isn't worth it if you ask me. Good luck. |
Originally Posted by ak2az
(Post 716899)
Have had my stuff in for about three weeks(no internal recs) and got a call this morning for a Dec 22nd interview.
What is the monthly hour guarantee line holder/reserve? Jr domicle? Time on RSV? Monthly schedule on RSV? 5 on 3 off, 6 on 3 off, 6 on 1 off, etc? What is the sim session in the interview like? 75 hours for lineholders and reserve. It seems that new hires have been going into each domicile on the last few standing bids. I would think you could hold any base you wanted, if not right out of class, then within a month or two. Time on reserve, who knows? Maybe six months if the flow actually happens, maybe longer, maybe less. Your guess is as good as mine. All reserves get 11 days off. The reserve lines are usually pretty inconsistent from what I see. 6 on 3 off, 5 on 2 off, 4 on 1 off....you get the idea. In a nutshell, reserve sucks. I've heard we aren't doing the sim ride anymore at the interview, maybe someone else who's interviewed recently can comment on that. Hope this helps, you can PM me if you have any other questions. Good luck. |
Originally Posted by ak2az
(Post 716899)
Have had my stuff in for about three weeks(no internal recs) and got a call this morning for a Dec 22nd interview.
What is the monthly hour guarantee line holder/reserve? Jr domicle? Time on RSV? Monthly schedule on RSV? 5 on 3 off, 6 on 3 off, 6 on 1 off, etc? What is the sim session in the interview like? |
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